808's & Convo

"Identity Christ"| EP.30 (SEASON FINALE)

Emo G & JUSTCALLMETEMP Season 1 Episode 30

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The season finale is here & we’re ending things the only way we know how…with hot takes, hip-hop debates & plenty of conversation.

This week, Emo G & JUSTCALLMETEMP dives into the growing speculation surrounding Latto’s new album “Big Mama” after fans became convinced she fired shots at Cardi B. Was it really a diss or is the internet doing what it does best? We break down where this rumored tension may have started & whether there’s any real smoke between two of rap’s biggest stars.

Then, JAŸ-Z shakes the culture after addressing the field; attorneyTony Buzbee, Jaguar Wright, Nicki Minaj, Lance “Un” Rivera, Ye, Oschino, Drake, Dame Dash & more during a surprise freestyle at The Roots Picnic. Was this simply Hov reminding everyone who he is or are we witnessing the beginning of a new chapter from one of hip-hop’s greatest artists? Plus, does Drake deserve credit for helping reignite competition, conversation & excitement within rap music for the past 2 years?

Speaking of Drake; Kendrick Lamar affiliate DJ Hed found himself under heavy criticism after creating a “Cali-friendly” version of Drake’s new record “Too Hard For The Radio”. Was it harmless fun, unnecessary trolling or proof that the Drake’s influence is still strong?

We also discuss the highly anticipated return of Young M.A. on her new album “Kween”. From opening up about her health battles & her sobriety journey to discussing relationships & personal growth; has she delivered her most vulnerable & mature project to date?

On the R&B side, 6LACK returns with “Love Is The New Gangsta”, leaning heavily into love, healing & emotional transparency. In an era where toxicity often dominates playlists; can positive relationship music still thrive in today’s music climate?

And finally, Megan Thee Stallion has social media talking after her appearance on the Bossman Dlow’s “Motion Party Remix”. Were her bars aimed at NBA star Klay Thompson or was she simply expressing frustration & moving on from a situation that fans continue to dissect?

From rap beefs & subliminals to healing, growth & relationship talk; episode 30 closes out the season with the same energy that built 808’s & Convo into a destination for real music discussions amongst fans.

Press play, join the conversation, and help us close out Season 1 the right way. 🎧🔥 #808sAndConvo #SeasonFinale #HipHopPodcast #MusicCulture #RapDebates



Opening Set List

 

You, Me, Him & Her- JAŸ-Z feat. Memphis Bleek, Beanie Siegel & Amil

Ignorant Shit- JAŸ-Z feat. Beanie Siegel

Hovi Baby- JAŸ-Z

What More Can I Say?- JAŸ-Z


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SPEAKER_17

I might even pose a single where she had. Where's she at?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, where's she at?

SPEAKER_17

Not the first one.

SPEAKER_05

Where is she? Where is she?

SPEAKER_08

Did you see all my what is Bobby be Bobby's first beautiful Jay-Z? The nigga keeps right in the nigga.

SPEAKER_17

I guess because some shit was it Jeezy? Jeezy and uh and Jay-Z. What's that water? Oh, the fish tank. I keep forgetting. Motherfucker. Nah. You gonna kill this nigga's oxygen? Nah, what song was it that they did together? They did a collaboration or something.

SPEAKER_08

With Jay Z and It was G Z, right?

SPEAKER_17

Wasn't it?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, it they did. Back in the day they get they did go crazy. And uh Oh, seeing it all? Seen it all?

SPEAKER_17

I think that was so they were supposed to shoot a video for that.

SPEAKER_13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

And supposedly, allegedly, I guess Jay told Jeezy, like, nah, let let Bobby let Bobby shine. And that's when he came out hot with hot nigga. Um, and you know, he popped off. Like everybody was fucking with him, like everybody was on a smurder wave, like Oh yeah. But but that's what I'm saying though, that they're saying that that's why, like that that's been his long-lasting beef. Also because of the shit with with uh DNA on the firearm that warranted him to go to prison and do that bit and shit up.

SPEAKER_09

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_17

And his attorney was with Rock Nation, if I'm not mistaken. So allegedly, what he what was was pretty much all the same, you know what I'm saying? Like Ventriloquist, like you got puppets out there, you know what I'm saying, and you had them do exactly what you wanted them to do, which was put me behind the wall so that way I didn't continue to flourish. You know what I'm saying? So that's that makes a lot of sense to me, you know, because it's not the first person who says that Jay did some dirty. Like did them greasy, like this ain't nothing new. It's been a pattern, and if it's a pattern, it's what's happening, guys.

SPEAKER_08

It's just what I'm I was mad confused because I'm like, I don't even know in what situation Jay-Z would step in Bobby Schmerder's world or vice versa. But I I I was seeing like Bobby was fucking talking crazy about Jay-Z before this freestyle came out, or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then um, and then when the freestyle came out, he put out another little thing about Hove and he was just like, This nigga's going through an identity Christ. That's exactly how you word it. Yeah, crisis. He said identity crist. That's that New York shit. This nigga didn't even spell check his shit, none of that.

SPEAKER_17

Niggas say he go motherfuckers don't know the difference between the T-H-E-I-R, the T-H-E-Y-R-E.

SPEAKER_08

The nigga said that the the freestyle sounded like Shakespearean. Yes, some shit like that. I was just like, oh man. That just go to show what you dropped out at. Right, that part. But no, I was confused, like, what the fuck is this beef with Jay-Z now?

SPEAKER_17

It's a lot of reasons that you even bringing that up because I saw that shit off the wake up. Like, I it's horrible that I wake up throughout the night because this is why I don't get adequate sleep. Because I'm waking up, and then the first thing that I'll do is open Instagram. And if it's not Instagram, it's threads, and I'm like, oh my god, what now? Like, no bullshit. Seriously.

SPEAKER_08

Each and every day, I'm starting to get addicted to threads. Threads, right? Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I'm starting to like threads.

SPEAKER_17

That's why I said either Instagram or threads. Like, motherfuckers be like, oh, why you don't go on X?

SPEAKER_08

I used to go to that too, like right after Graham. I go right to X.

SPEAKER_17

After they got rid of Twitter and put X. Yeah, I can't stand that shit. I can't go on X. Shit is dumb. It's still Twitter to us, okay?

SPEAKER_08

Of course. We came up when it was Twitter, nigga. So I'm not I can't see myself calling anything else after that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Because that's what motherfuckers was using AOL and Blackberry, though.

SPEAKER_08

Ain't nothing crazy happened off X yet, but all the high-key moments happened on Twitter.

SPEAKER_17

Facts.

SPEAKER_08

I'm always closing. AOL chat rooms. Oh, Lord have mercy. You brought it back. Screen names. Screen names. What was your screen name?

SPEAKER_17

Young Princess. I never forget that shit. Yo, I told Anna that shit, and she busted out laughing. She was like, oh my god. I said, that's how I knew. Young Princess. That's when I knew it was real. I said, I'm out here calling myself Young Princess.

SPEAKER_08

Young Princess.

SPEAKER_17

That's crazy. Listen, it is what it is. I thought that was gonna be my artist name. That's why that's why that's where I developed that from, actually. That's when I was sitting here trying to do it.

SPEAKER_08

That's a nice little backstory right there.

SPEAKER_17

You know, that you know I started right now.

SPEAKER_08

Where temp came from?

SPEAKER_17

Temp, that's a different story. That's not that's not it's too hard for the radio. I can't talk about that. You know?

SPEAKER_12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

I mean you either gonna get hot or cold, and I think you know that, you know what I'm saying? Like if you know, you know. But if if if anybody wanted me to define the meaning of, you know, my handle and what I go by, I mean I live by that shit too. You know, like this shit ain't no secret. You either gonna get hot or cold. And and it doesn't mean that I have to be a bug out before, yeah, maybe back in because Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_08

I I I I kinda before we're adults. I kinda get you like I understand the the backstory of of your name a little bit. Not the backstory, but I I I know where you got you broke temp down from something else.

SPEAKER_17

Yes, temp.

SPEAKER_08

So you just shortened it. I like I I understand where it came from.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_08

No, I don't I don't understand where it came from, but I know what I know what you're talking about. Like if you know you know, so for context for the audience, temp is short for temper.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

And but she spells it T E M P H A. P-A-H.

SPEAKER_17

So it used to be that, but then I just left it to T E M P A Yeah, drop the H. Got dropped the H. It was simple.

SPEAKER_08

Like, of course, that's like that's that's ghetto for temper. Yeah. You know what I mean? Obviously. Use your common sense, you know what I'm saying? I know that ain't too that's that's kind of a rare commodity nowadays, uh common sense, but use that.

SPEAKER_17

It was funny because I ended up meeting some some chick that went by the same handle, but her shit was temp. Really? Yeah, shout out to Temp Taylor. Tempt out to Temp Taylor.

SPEAKER_08

Yo, yo, we over fucking intro the fucking we over here just yeah, okay. This um Damn yo, this is the last one, man.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, this is the last episode of the season.

SPEAKER_05

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_17

This is the last episode of the season, and this is long overdue. Oh man. Oh man. Not again. Alright. 9-11. I'm gonna play that number. I ain't gonna lie.

SPEAKER_08

Yo, I just played $45 worth of numbers. I gotta sit up there right now, right at the Alexa, right there. Play $45. I didn't even I gotta go back outside and now it's too late, actually. I was gonna play the um nighttime shit. Alright, whatever.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I was yeah, I I'll I'll we'll talk about that later. Yeah. Okay. Let's jump into this. Yeah, let's do it.

SPEAKER_11

Sojo Dynasty, Rockefeller records, you hear me. Unstoppable, nigga. Uh uh. Stickle, stickle, boo to believe and off your polo sweater, roll with the ROC. Hey, fella. Remember me, the teachers, just to fella. Now we're full filler, foe killers, four wheels, we go wheelers, hopefully fillers. We need all this fightin'. Listen, boy, boy, don't give us the fly tickin', the fly flickin'. We got the game tied up, stop trippin', bigger man, huh? Sigu, stick with y'all, map me, Billy Yo. Cappy ham, hell capitan. The fire spit broke down happy land. So you club, we unapproachable dogs, not so you gone too. Great aim, arm the arm close to your toes, like a dance supposed to shot. I thought I told you, these ain't just focused. Don't make me take it to the old school. I put old to your old school. To you close to the foes to the niggas close to you. Sigle stickle, y'all. Yo niggas got me really fruit. Make it make one of those. Yo help me as the quickest right and it's quite a bit. When it's not come out, make that come out, when it's not come out, come on, they're coming back, but it's not flight, but no more. Big number, big enough, do it, put the number one out of the mouth.

SPEAKER_08

There we go, my bad. My bad, yeah. Oh no. What's poppin', what's poppin', what's poppin'?

SPEAKER_17

What it do, what it do.

SPEAKER_08

Welcome back to the final installment of 808 combo season one. I am your homie, your confidant, your man, emoji.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, what your girl temp. You know, the noisemaker.

SPEAKER_08

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_17

Well, I don't know how to not say what people are thinking, but say it all the time.

SPEAKER_08

Girl Tip, man. My mouth got me in trouble, pause. And this is episode 30. God damn it. What a round of applause.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, no. Sound like we was in the motherfucking ring, yo. Sound like we was about to get it on.

SPEAKER_08

Nah, this is like technical difficulties you have the audience won't even fucking know about because we're gonna clean it up. Tussing it. Clean it up like orbit. Clean it up. Well, yeah, there's episode 30, yo. Yo, oh man. Woo! Oh man.

SPEAKER_16

Not again.

SPEAKER_08

It's the season ender, man. Shit. Wow.

SPEAKER_17

30 fucking episodes?

SPEAKER_08

30 joints, man.

SPEAKER_17

I ain't gonna lie. I know I was I was absent, but you know, I know, you know, you kept you keep you kept my spirit alive. Of course. You know, and motherfuckers know the vibes. You know what I'm saying? What's understood? Don't need to be explained. Respectfully.

SPEAKER_08

I literally just about to say that shit, man. Don't worry about that. No pun intended. Yeah, you gotta explain yourself. Your name is right on the fucking show. It just showed you. So you've been here for all 30. Yeah, no. You know what I'm saying? But damn, 30 shows, bro. 30 joints, man. 30. That's fire.

SPEAKER_17

And not for nothing. Numbers look pretty nice.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, they do too. I ain't gonna lie. They look pretty nice. Slap that up for that shit.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Exclusion. Keep tuning in. Keep tuning in. Please do. But I know that they're gonna tune in more when we do the video thing.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, yeah, that's a fact. Because we we saw that.

SPEAKER_08

Season two, at this point on out, I think we're gonna focus more on the video stuff. So like for sure. Y'all gonna see how sexy ass is on screen. Yeah, hell yeah. On every screen. Your 50 inches, your 55s, your TV. Wild load, wild load.

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SPEAKER_08

What the fuck? Sis, what the fuck's been going on with it? Return to Cinder. Return to Cinder on back.

SPEAKER_17

Uncle Joe.

SPEAKER_08

What's new? What's going on?

SPEAKER_17

Hey yo. Nothing much, bro. I'm about to go on vacation. Ooh. You know, that's that's that's you know. Look, look, 30 shows. I think I deserve a vacation.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, we'll be back sooner than y'all thinking.

SPEAKER_17

Nah, yeah, we ain't not too not too long. But you know, the summer's here. Sun is damp. He's in cold.

SPEAKER_08

That's alright. Yeah. Oh yeah. Is that vacation coming up?

SPEAKER_17

Nah, yeah. I'm leaving for vacation in two weeks.

SPEAKER_08

That's nice where you going.

SPEAKER_17

I'll be in Florida.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_17

I was supposed to go to Puerto Rico, but you know, family shit happened and just had to we had to do a pivot, you know, and more family shit, but for the greater good. Okay. Obviously. Okay. Which is always great. Get to see my in-laws. Probably see my extended family also. Usually what I do, I always have a rental whenever I go out there. Got the I don't got the alpha this time, but I got the Durango, so I might be pushing that motherfucker. I don't know. Because it's an SRT. So.

SPEAKER_08

Well, Durango's Durango's nice though.

SPEAKER_17

Nah, those shits are fire. But the only reason why I haven't bought one yet is because I heard that they have electrical issues also, but I gotta do a little, I gotta delve deep into that too. Because you know I'm trying to get another card.

SPEAKER_08

Like the con you gotta return a tender. Return the sender. Return the sender. Or or the kind that that that blow up when you on fucking on a 9-5 or some shit. Like what kind of electrical issues they was having.

SPEAKER_17

The power steering, the the fucking fuses, the sensors. Same kind of bullshit that I'm dealing with my car right now. So I'm like, alright. Like I'm I've I've invested so much money into my car. You know what I'm saying? Over the years, that I'm just like, I might as well keep her, right?

SPEAKER_15

Okay.

SPEAKER_17

And just get I'm I'll make that my home car and then my other car, like, you know. All right. I'll utilize for the commute back and forth. Get the uh Lexus? So I'm looking into that right now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Nice. Yeah. Sorry, I'm not making this about you. It's gonna take some time.

SPEAKER_17

No, no, no. See you in a minute, man. No, no, of course. What's going on with you though?

SPEAKER_08

You all right? You look good. Yeah, you know, everything is the same. Regular Degla. Just been working nonstop. You know, family. See, everybody's doing good, I'm doing great. And just trying to come up with new ideas of like what's life gonna be like post 808s and combo. Not that people quitting the show or anything. I'm just saying, like, once the season, like, once this episode is up and running and out, I'm trying to figure out what else I can do to keep myself you know busy while we're taking that time off.

SPEAKER_17

The minor hiatus.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, that's about it. It's gonna be a limited one, guys. That's all I've been doing.

SPEAKER_17

Just the process.

SPEAKER_08

Same must, but yeah, regular shit. We'll figure it out. No, yeah, yeah. I actually I actually have something in my in uh mind I'm gonna probably talk about later on in the show, but in the meantime, we actually do got a show to do right now. We already 21 minutes in. Okay, wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

That was that was pretty quick.

SPEAKER_08

Anyway. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. What the fuck is you talking about, man?

SPEAKER_17

Big mama.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love this.

SPEAKER_17

Man.

SPEAKER_08

Lotto your girl Lotto. And some more information came out today, too. I'm glad we're recording this shit at this time, man.

SPEAKER_17

Cardi apologizing, making it public enough. Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

So Lotto Lotto allegedly took shot at Cardiff concert on her Big Mama album. And for the likes of me, I was trying to figure out where the fuck the attacks stem from, and then I forgot that Cardi last year.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, when she was going at it with Ice Spice. Yeah, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_08

She's talking Ice Spice manager, right? And it just so happened to name drop Lotto. Like I'm not Lotto.

SPEAKER_17

It was a lot of indirect dropping her name.

SPEAKER_08

And it was in the heat of the moment. It was in the heat of the moment. It was in the heat of the moment. Excuse me. But you know, I I get it. That's like that.

SPEAKER_17

Shit just roll off of your tongue. I'm not even gonna say that's Bronx energy. That's New York energy. That's that's New York energy for real.

SPEAKER_08

It is like we just just we just be going at the hip, my nigga. Like just shooting at everything, bro. Like, hey, nobody save for her. Nothing. Like, fuck.

SPEAKER_17

Nobody save, not you, not the cat, not the bad.

SPEAKER_08

We were like, oh, I even mean to hit you with that shit. Yeah, it was after butt.

SPEAKER_17

Listen, this is just built up. This shit just had I just had to let it off. It is what it is. You know, take it how you want it. Like, either you're gonna take the apology or you're not forgot about that.

SPEAKER_08

When I I'm like, damn, I should.

SPEAKER_17

Uh that's exactly.

SPEAKER_08

Well, she did that, and I f I forgot about that. And I was like, yeah, but then Cardi had like try to clean it up like two months after that. Something like that. Didn't know how she tried to clean it up, but we I started seeing like she was hanging out with or trying to hanging out with uh Lotto or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, uh-huh. And even in one of her songs on the in and my other drama, she had mentioned some shit or Lotto. Forget what it was, I forget what track it was. Ain't nobody gonna be calling me out, talking about some I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. But I I do recall her saying something in reference. If she didn't say it directly, it was definitely in reference to the situation that had transpired. And I guess, like, obviously, with Lotto being pregnant, you know, throughout her pregnancy term, like the number one thing for a pregnant woman, and you of course you would know, right? Like, in the sense of you cannot be stressed throughout your pregnancy.

SPEAKER_13

Absolutely, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_17

Whatever you feel, that baby's gonna feel. Yep, you don't want to cause any harm to your unborn child, you know what I'm saying? God forbid. And I think that Lotto handled the situation very well. We don't know how she handled it behind the scenes, but you know, on the surface, she did a pretty fucking good job, to say the very least, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, well, yeah, my bad. What the hell? What the hell? Uh the hilly.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, so Lotto took a shot at Cardi on this song called Gimme That.

SPEAKER_12

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08

And I, for the likes of me, I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, thinking that maybe she had wrote that song, you know, before the apology or something like that. Because you know how artists be sitting on music and shit like that. Like, maybe she had written a song before. You know what I mean? But I was like, okay, but even if she did, why would she release it after Cardi already? After all the song. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was like, why would she release it or whatever?

SPEAKER_17

Same thing that people in question with Drake responded to Kendrick.

SPEAKER_08

And I'm like, no, I mean just let this shit fester and I mean they build or whatever, and I'll I'll I'll talk about it when I want to talk about it. Right. And that's the approach I feel like Lotto took or whatever, which I respect. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_17

But like, because motherfuckers feel like you owe them something, right? Yeah. I'm like, listen, oh, because you said we gotta have a conversation about it.

SPEAKER_08

Right.

SPEAKER_17

I gotta sit here. No, absolutely.

SPEAKER_08

And you know what?

SPEAKER_17

How about how a lot of people been doing that a lot lately? That the it's the audacity.

SPEAKER_08

I'm not I'm not gonna be intimidated by you because you're Cardi B, right?

SPEAKER_17

Right.

SPEAKER_08

And because you apologize, cool.

SPEAKER_17

No shade. Shout out to Cardiff.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, and no, and no speaking party gang all the time. I'm speaking, I'm speaking third person. I'm not speaking for emo, like at all. Like, I love Cardi B. I love I love both women. Yeah, amazing. Okay, you apologize and all that, you took accountability, cool, whatever. Alright, cool. But what if I'm the type that because you put my name in the mix or whatever, you put that shit in that cellar or whatever, and that's not how I want to handle it, my nigga. Like, nah, nah, nah, I want to handle it on wax now. Like, fuck, I don't give a fuck. Like, I didn't that was uncalled for. You threw my name in this shit. Like, so no, I don't want your apology.

SPEAKER_17

Right. Fuck your apology.

SPEAKER_08

In other words, respectfully, like, fuck your apology. This is how I want to handle it now. You know what I mean? Like, so like, no, I'm I'm not gonna shut up because you apologize, bro. Like, yeah, that I guess that's what I'm trying to I'm just gonna do.

SPEAKER_17

I'm gonna I'm gonna just get off how I feel about the situation at hand.

SPEAKER_08

Cause she ain't never really said anything about this shit.

SPEAKER_17

Because again, she was pregnant. Yeah, she dropped that load, she dropped the album, got her shit off. And she got her shit off. Yeah. What she said? She said she let her nuts hang, her balls dropped. Yep.

SPEAKER_08

And it was a light bar too. She said, talking about buying Big Mama a bag like my nigga ain't already bought it. Like my nigga ain't coming off racks. Big bank over here, big facts. Wish a bitch would get in that booth. I'm calling up platboy Max. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, but that's not like 21. 21.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

That I ain't gonna lie. That that 21 was written all over this album. I'm not even gonna hold you. She just carried it well. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? She was definitely Big Mama thing. Yeah, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_08

Fox and J.

SPEAKER_17

That's what it's giving. And and I ain't mad at it. I ain't mad at it.

SPEAKER_08

Olivia.

SPEAKER_17

I ain't even mad at it. You know why? Because I don't listen to female rap artists like that. No. It's rare, you know? So like the fact that I could sit there and and and was able to listen to Lotto's entire album from start to finish.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_17

That says a lot.

SPEAKER_08

I was mistaken. It was and I didn't skip. It was Young and May's album I didn't listen to when you told me about that. I did listen to Lotto's album.

SPEAKER_17

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

And it's hard. I'm not gonna lie, it's hard. It's fire. It's fire. Like I did like the production.

SPEAKER_17

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, and I'm not even outside, bro. Like that shit made me want to be outside, bro.

SPEAKER_17

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

I ain't gonna hold you. I did I did I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_17

You know what it gave me?

SPEAKER_08

What?

SPEAKER_17

And and I'm speaking about somebody in the whole total opposite lane. Okay. But when TT came out, well, her album. And she had him on in it. Mm-hmm. Okay. You know which album I'm talking about? Which one? Which one? So it it's it's called the album.

SPEAKER_08

The album is called the album.

SPEAKER_17

Yes. And and and and I'm talking about Tiana Taylor, guys. Yeah. No, just for those who don't know, I'm talking about. I know you know. But yes. It was great. And I listened, and I still listen to that shit from start to finish till this very day. People would assume that I listen to a lot of female artists because I'm a female. Right? It's always that rivalry. Terrible misconception. But that but that's how people think the majority of the time, right? And it's not, it's it's nothing sexist. Like I'm still a female at the end of the day. Everybody knows I'm a feminist. Very big on, you know, female woman rights and so on and so forth. But that's neither here. Oh shit. Good God. Lord. I'm trying to be a better version of me. And this guy, I don't know. It's like he just wants me to stay unhinged and let me know. Go ahead, go ahead. I'm just fucking with you. Go ahead. I know you I know. I'm just talking about shit right now. Cause they don't know. You see, hot or cold. There you go. Mm-hmm. Hot or cold.

SPEAKER_08

She got soaked at it. Look at that. Yeah. Entertainment.

SPEAKER_17

Patience. This takes time. This didn't happen overnight.

SPEAKER_08

It's a lot of work, man. This is not overnight.

SPEAKER_17

I'm still working on it.

SPEAKER_08

Still a work in progress. We're not perfect.

SPEAKER_17

No, at all.

SPEAKER_08

She's only human.

SPEAKER_17

Pity who. Pity who. But yes. I I do not listen to female artists like that unless they're from the 90s. Like Kim, Mary, you know, Lauren.

SPEAKER_08

Why do you think that we do that nowadays? But uh you know what? And honestly, I'm I'm pretty sure there's a lot of female artists that get listened to by the other generations, but why do you feel like us millennials?

SPEAKER_17

It's just a pattern. This is this is his this is his this is literally the epitome of history repeating itself. The same way, the same way that all the cats.

SPEAKER_08

Respectfully, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_17

Like I get it. Which is crazy though, because we grew up listening to 7080 shit.

SPEAKER_08

Because I feel like we we try to keep an open mind with kind of communication.

SPEAKER_17

Correct. And that's what c that's what makes us eclectic at the same time. But but then again, there's other people who remain stagnant and just uh prefer to stay in their bubble to invest their attention their short term, right? And and that that lack of uh interest and and uh attention span into like investing into different expanded it, you pretty pretty much like they're they're very limited, right? Yeah, however, on on the on the flip side, there's us who are like okay, yeah, like we can listen, we can like indulge in these. Trying to branch out some others, yeah, for sure. Like an olive tree, right? But but then you sit there and say, Hold up, but this is not giving what it's but we can't expect that.

SPEAKER_08

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_17

Because we're in a different time.

SPEAKER_08

And I'm and I'm using you and I as an example, yeah. Or or just creatives an example from like our age, in a general from your age to my age or whatever, like correct, like people who have who could think outside the box and be. I feel like most of us, I'm not gonna say all of us, most of us, we will get to a point. I feel like we branched off on a lot of shit, but we're gonna I'm getting away. No, I think we still get back to that.

SPEAKER_17

We still learn it.

SPEAKER_08

I feel like most of us, yes, we we could we can we can we can have an open mind as far as listening to like other shit that we never like even heard of, artists we never even heard of, music we never like we'll try to branch out, but at some point we always find a way to spin back to that's a fact where we always spin the block.

SPEAKER_17

We go back to what we're accustomed to or what we know, what I think what we're most comfortable with. And I'm gonna I'm gonna speak for both of us because we could be in the car, folks, and some shit from the 90s or the 80s come on and we'd be like Bobbing our head, yeah, singing along, and know every if not every other word, every fucking word. Pretty much, but then it it'll be on shuffle, and then it'll go to some shit that's happening right now, and it's just like all right, this shit is a bob too, okay, but it's still not damn that shit, that last track that we just listened to, that shit was fire, yo. That was what a time. What a time to be alive, right? And then what happens? We listen to the shit that's popping right now, and then be like, nah, we was just listening to some shit from the 90s, maybe the early 2000s. Let's continue that wave throughout this car ride.

SPEAKER_08

You you know what? You wanna know you wanna know? I have a I have a very new argument as far as when it comes to that, right? Yeah, I feel like back in the day when we used to hear music, that was the only music that was really available to us. Like, so we used to hear it over and over and over again, and we grew up with it, listened to over and over and over again. So it's timeless now to us on this point. Versus this day and age, music comes out and leaves so fucking quick. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So we don't even get time to like really ingest it and enjoy it or whatever. Enjoy it the way that we used to.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

When we do find the things, if I'm wrong, the only thing that we really like listening to from those songs that just come in quick, the ones that we really, really, really, really like is one, the beat, or two, like the catchy hook or whatever, like the cadence or something like that behind it. Or both of those or whatever. But it's never something that really like, yeah, and and and the artists can have like a that could be like the anchor point that keeps us to like, okay, I'm gonna come back to this song because, like, yeah, because it because this artist did this song or whatever, whatever. Uh if I'm making any sense, if that makes any fucking sense, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like all the music that comes out this day and age is that's that's pretty much what it is. When we find something that we do like of the people that we do like or whatever, it's just pretty much just those two things that that we're getting from it, like the hook and the beat.

SPEAKER_17

Alright, so since you putting it that way, my point, what I was trying to make when it came to Lotto and Tiana Taylor, is growing sexy.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I can get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

It's it's given very much shit that we was listening to when we have no business listening to.

SPEAKER_08

And this is why I said her production on this album was like very big. Like, like she used, I think she like spent a lot of money on or maybe her man. Them samples on the label or whatever spent their money on those samples, no, like because them samples are fucking samples is them samples is like them shit is yeah. I like Lotto Lotto spent money on this motherfucking production, my nigga. Like, this shit ain't and then the engineering sound kiss. Like, yeah, like chef's kiss, like so. I'm like, no, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Yo, shout out to Lotto, yo.

SPEAKER_08

That that's oh my goodness. No, this is a fact.

SPEAKER_17

You you did your big one for real.

SPEAKER_08

Apparently, the Big Mama's uh her retirement album.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, but how many times people say they're gonna retire and they don't they they end up coming back?

SPEAKER_08

It's like they were for like Machiavelli, like they're gonna be like, She had the baby in 21's like, alright, you can sit your ass down and raise this child or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_17

Could be that.

SPEAKER_08

It could be that.

SPEAKER_17

Oh, maybe she has different aspirations in life. You know? Yeah. Maybe this wasn't the long-term career goal or end goal for her. Maybe this was just something that she wanted to tap into. But that's that's good for her.

SPEAKER_08

I don't feel like I feel like the people who get who find a lane in rap or whatever, you you you capitalize as much as you can off that lane, because at some point there is going to be a roadblock in that lane or whatever. Like if it's not like mainstream, you gotta get it in while it's hot. Get it in while it's hot and get the fuck out of there. Because when you if you get stuck in there, you'll you'll you'll be in this whole rut of trying to figure things out and you'll get older at the same time. And as as fast as this fucking whole landscape change, this whole music shit change, you'll have a hard time trying to keep up with everybody and everything.

SPEAKER_09

Because they just wanna be free. Free.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, there you go. So yeah, get it in while you while you can, you know, and get the fuck out. Rap is a temporary thing. It's it's just a thank you. It's it's a it's a very temporary thing. Unless you are like an artist, like a big time artist, like a Kendrick or Drake or J. Cole or something like that, and you can keep adapted with times and some shit like that. But even those guys, they have a hard time trying to keep up. I mean, you think they come out with music as often as they come up with music? Like, we don't hear from Kendrick for like every we have Kendrick every time the Olympics come out.

SPEAKER_17

They don't got a but they don't got a choice. Yeah, they don't got a choice because they tradition.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I feel like capitalize off this as much as you can for the few years that you have and then get the fuck out. That's it. Get get most of that money. I guess you know, take care of your family, take care of yourself, invest. Invest. Invest.

SPEAKER_17

Like we've been and we've been on that same train, yeah, saying the same shit throughout this entire season. If this is what you're gonna do, get to the bag, invest, invest, invest, and dodge because why deal with the long-term headaches?

SPEAKER_08

Unless you know, or the masses let you know that you're an artist that got that can have the longevity. If you're not that artist, my nigga, and but you know you're not that artist, and you can see, okay, this ain't gonna last too long when I'm in my 30s or something like that. Yeah, get the fuck up out of there, bro. Get up out of there. And you know, and spare yourself the embarrassment too, because you'll we there's a bunch of artists that still be trying to keep up. And it ain't making no sense coming, I'm like, uh nah, you can you can we we can we could have gone without that.

SPEAKER_17

Like, yeah, and I and I ain't gonna lie, like a couple of even my own favorite artists have been making me feel like that a whole lot lately. Yeah, and I'm like, yo, like I get it, you still doing it for the cause, in the sense of your audience and those who support you. And I will never ever take that away from any artist, right? Yeah, but it's just like stop advertising like you really that, like you really him or you really her, like you're doing your big one because it's it's not giving what it's supposed to. When you get older maybe it's not supposed to give that. Maybe it's not, yeah. Maybe not.

SPEAKER_08

I feel like when you get older as an artist and you still want to be an artist, do passion projects. Yeah, don't try to be cool, don't try to keep up with the time. Don't be down. Like, you know what I mean? I feel like if you do a passion project, something that you feel like in your heart that you always wanted to do, and you feel like it would never make sense because of how you were as an artist before you got to that point.

SPEAKER_17

But I think it has a lot to do with production, like you said, and and marketing and the rollouts, you know what I'm saying? Because a motherfucker could have a banging ass project, and that shit still flops because of the engineering, production, yeah, all that shit, market, how much you know that's why you don't push the green button.

SPEAKER_08

You don't green light anything until you know everything on all fucking boards is like to the T. But uh as far as this lotto shit, you think Cardi's gonna respond to this?

SPEAKER_17

Well, oh yeah, she has she apologized and and and I have it actually. She has. And I could tell you guys verbatim. I took a screenshot of that shit actually. I actually saw that shit when I was getting out of work.

SPEAKER_08

While you looking for it, I'm just gonna let them know. Like, yeah, so Cardi had just responded to the uh the the the verse in question of of uh from Lotto or whatever on the uh the the song. What is the fucking song called again? Oh my god, I just had the song. Give me that. Give me that. So um Cardi actually responded to it. She left a lengthy caption, I believe it was on Instagram or something like that. It was on X. On X? Mm-hmm. Oh, Twitter? Mm-hmm. Yep, Twitter.

SPEAKER_17

She said, I truly understand how you feel, and that's exactly why I chose to apologize publicly in concert, of course. Here you go, guys. Because the disrespect became public. On that call, I didn't even mean to call you out. Oh well, excuse me, call you that. I didn't mean any harm. There's a difference in what I said versus what I meant. What I could have said was you was too forgiving. Sorry, the text is kind of low here, guys. It's very small and I'm blind. Let me just enlarge this a bit. Where was I? What could uh yeah, there was there's a difference in what I said versus what I meant. What I could have said was you was too forgiving and gave too much mercy in that situation, but it was a heated conversation and I let my mouth get the best of me. When the call came out, I was eight months pregnant, had just released my album, and was extremely overwhelmed and emotional. That's not to excuse what I said, but to let you know where I was in my head.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_17

I genuinely felt bad about what happened in 2025 and 2026. I made multiple attempts to connect. I spoke to your manager, your sister, and even texted you directly to take full responsibility. I always had love and respect for you. I always wanted to make it right, but making it right looks different from the both of us. I wanted to connect with you, but you wanted to address it on your album. That's what unfortunately I didn't take another screenshot of the other. It's probably like a couple of weeks after that.

SPEAKER_08

What if in Lotto size? Okay, if you you're gonna talk crazy in my name without even like talking to me first or whatever, right? Yeah. Alright, cool. Making it right to you was just apologizing. What are they like? Alright, bitch. I don't nah. That's not how that's not how my mama raised me, nigga. Making it right to me is just like stepping to the problem and handling it like fuck all that.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, but that it makes you seem like you're bigger than the project. You know what I'm saying? Like than the program, excuse me.

SPEAKER_08

I do respect that Cardi took accountability and apologizing. She definitely did.

SPEAKER_17

In concert.

SPEAKER_08

Because she is the biggest, she is the bigger artist.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, she is.

SPEAKER_08

And and not saying that the bigger artists always gotta be the ones that like not have to take the higher road or whatever. Like, I feel like that's very big for the bigger artists.

SPEAKER_17

It's commendable because a lot of people don't take accountability at all.

SPEAKER_08

A bigger artist will never fucking take accountability. It's just like, okay, no, you're smaller than me, you should roll and roll over and show belly.

SPEAKER_17

It's like Matilda and Miss Trunch.

SPEAKER_08

And Miss Trunch, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Or Danny DeVito, like, uh-huh. I'm the I'm big, you're small. I'm smart, you're dumb. That's what it that's what it gives.

SPEAKER_08

Cardi B definitely, and I'm glad she did all of that publicly. Mind you, she did all of that publicly. That's just real bronch shit. She did all of that publicly. So we had met when we were now the ball is in Cardi's court. Like, however she wants to handle that. But I feel like in some reason, in my heart, I feel like Cardi's just not gonna be able to.

SPEAKER_17

You don't think she's gonna she's gonna respond to it?

SPEAKER_08

I don't think she's gonna respond to it.

SPEAKER_17

I I think that was her response right there.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. I don't think the bar was that crazy to to like it wasn't disrespectful or nothing like that. It was just like nothing. I want you to know that I'm aware.

SPEAKER_17

This is how I felt. Like, alright, I I it wasn't crazy though. I accept your apology. I may forgive you, but I'm gonna still I'm gonna still give you this gut check. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna touch your chin real quick because you know what I'm saying? Like you gotta feel it some way somehow.

SPEAKER_08

Like, even if I'm that hurt me when I heard it, when I heard you blacking on that fucking phone call. That yeah, that hurt me. So alright.

SPEAKER_17

And we don't even know what the hell Lotto was probably going through at that time neither. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Like what that could have caused. Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_08

That's true. But I respect I respect both women, though. Shout out to the ladies, bro. Shout out to the ladies.

SPEAKER_17

Oh man, for sure. Y'all need to get it together.

SPEAKER_06

For sure.

SPEAKER_17

Cause like they always I just felt like this is a constant issue in the female rap world. Whereas people like, but that it is true. Like, fans always try to make it, but it's the fans, it's the fans that instigate it. And I just think that people just need to just like fall back a little bit. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08

Like the fans are always gonna be fanning, bro.

SPEAKER_17

No, of course, but you know what I'm saying? This is like a what at what point, but then okay, so but then that's gonna that right there, let alone says that says a lot about the individual as far as the that's personal. Well, I'm getting that.

SPEAKER_08

Like, yeah, the fans gonna always be the fans, but this is more like how you react to the situation.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, but like how many times people gotta be the bigger person in situations too? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08

I mean, no, I I I not I'm not saying one person, all parties involved should already know that's how the fans move. Let's not let them hype us up unless we know it's just that fucking deep, you know what I mean. Saying less we know it's that deep between us two. I ain't gotta pipe up on you, my nigga. You ain't gotta pipe up on me, my nigga. I already know how the fans is they gonna speculate because they don't know the full backstory, whatever the fucking case it was. Like, yeah, it depends on how you move and how you react to the situation. Like, okay, nah, this is only a phone call, and I ain't gotta put this shit up on Instagram, and that shit sounds like we're about to see the last 12 seconds of our lives before. That's just sound like flash. That shit sounded crazy. The fuck going on, but but yeah, like yeah, yeah, don't let the fans pipe you up, bro.

SPEAKER_17

Like, yeah, because it seems like that's what they that's what they're doing a lot lately. I mean, look at the show with Jay and Drake.

SPEAKER_08

Yo, speaking of Jay, man, that's a Lynx topic, actually, man. Oh, that's a nice little Serena Williams serve you just put up there. I mean, my nigga, I like that. I'm just saying. I like that, man. Okay. That's a nice little pivot, and I like that. So the nigga, this nigga Jay-Z.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

He just addressed the whole fucking world at the roots uh picnic. And my question is, you think we're getting a new Hove, bro? Like, what's going on? I don't know. Like, we're crazy.

SPEAKER_17

You think he really fell for the bait, like everybody's saying? Because it was like pretty much checkmate bitch.

SPEAKER_08

Nah, man. I don't think I don't think Hove fell for no bait. You don't think he fell for no bait? Hove takes a lot of time off to actually study and ingest all everything that everything that's going on. He takes a lot of years off of whatever, just to like study and ingest information and shit like that.

SPEAKER_17

But also relearning who he is.

SPEAKER_08

From who? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_17

And where he stands.

SPEAKER_08

As far as what?

SPEAKER_17

In the industry. Oh, it's a good idea. The music world, the rap world.

SPEAKER_08

I mean, yeah, both things could be true. Hello? I mean, yeah. Hello. Both things could be true, but you know. I I I'm not thinking that far.

SPEAKER_15

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

I'll be I'd be a whole lot far in. I d I didn't think that far in. I'm thinking more of the surface level shit that's going on right here, right now. You're thinking more behind the scenes corporate takeover. Yeah, that's that's that's a deeper conversation.

SPEAKER_17

Who am I trying to be? Am I trying to be an artist or am I trying to be a businessman?

SPEAKER_08

At this point, I think Hove has surpassed the level of trying to be an artist. I know. Like, obviously, I yeah, he's definitely a businessman at this point. I mean, he's not a businessman, he's a business man. You know what I'm saying? Stay out of my business. Damn.

SPEAKER_17

No, I I I say that because of like the friendly reminder the motherfuckers, right? That's what I mean by my trying to be an artist or like giving basquiat, nigga. Like, and now you're giving this nigga Boondocks over here with his fucking fro. Come on, bro.

SPEAKER_08

The hair shit. First of all, here's a fun fact about Hove, though.

SPEAKER_17

It's supposedly it was four to six days at this point.

SPEAKER_08

I'm a Hove fan before I'm a Drake fan, honestly speaking.

SPEAKER_17

Uh of course. I know that.

SPEAKER_08

So Hove has this whole thing also that he grows his hair out when he's in album mode. So mind you, he ain't put on an album since 444. That came out years ago. You know what I'm saying? So that came out years ago. But he's been growing his hair since then. Probably a little before way before then, actually. But he's been growing his hair since then.

SPEAKER_17

Because he had that stupid little frow at first.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, cut it since. So he's got locks and all that shit or whatever. So Ho's thing was to always grow his hair out when he's in album mode. And then when he cuts it off, that means the album is complete. So you can't just cut off dreads. You gotta kind of like wash it out, comb it out, all that shit. So I feel like the fro is just letting us know that he is in the process of damn near finishing an album. Because who the fuck knows? He might get he might go back to Caesar Hove. He might go, he might go back to fucking low fade hove, my nigga. Like he might go back to that.

SPEAKER_17

Flat top.

SPEAKER_08

So we if we see that, that means an album is fucking definitely like Do you think that's gonna drop before he does his negative big affordable?

SPEAKER_17

The Yankee Stadium shit? Negative. That's like in two weeks. But we don't know if the shit is already ready to go, if it's cooked up and it's already approved. You know what I'm saying? Like he might come out with some shit. I mean, we didn't know he was gonna come out and start doing that freestyle. Like bow.

unknown

Bow.

SPEAKER_08

I got breakdowns of every fucking and gunning. I got breakdowns of every fucking Yo, Ho took shots at numerous people, including Nicki Minaj, her husband Kenneth Petty, Dame Dash. This was real petty, Drizzy Drake, attorney Tony Busby, Tory Lane's, Tory Lane's father, son Star Peterson, Kanye West, Jaguar Wright. He threw a slight jab at Lance Unrevera. He's a music executive back in the day. And Os Chino from State Property. Mm-hmm. So he went crazy at the last one. It's so crazy because I'm looking at that shit and I was just like, yo, just about two months ago, you was on GQ talking about the battle rap shit. It's not necessary no more. And the rap it's not a pillar no more. But then you come out and do some shit like that. You fucking pulled out the the the the nigga pulled a switch out. I don't think it was a switch, bro. Nah, yeah, it wasn't even a switch. It was yeah, it was something. That was a nah.

SPEAKER_04

He had one of them helicopter shits, nigga, with the boom, like he was letting that shit off.

SPEAKER_17

Like, what's going on? Yeah, he walked out. I no, that was something else that I saw at 2.3 in the morning. I woke up and opened my phone and saw that. I said, You gotta be fucking kidding me. You gotta be fucking shitting. I said, bro. Really at the picnic though. Yeah, man. And Meek was even there.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, Meek was there too. He told Meek to perform his uh, of course, his famous song Dreams and Nightmare Intro. Meek usually performs that song because I seen actually, I actually seen Meek actually uh perform this for him at the um Made It America festival a few years ago or whatever. He had opened up for Jay-Z using that shit or whatever. But Meek always performed that song with the track playing behind. He encouraged Meek. He's like, yo, fuck the track, do it naturally. Like just do it like just you, your voice. That's it, whatever. Just have the instrumental playing. That's it. Don't have the track playing. And it sounded really good. I was just like, yo, okay, yeah. Look at you. Challenge, you still challenging the boy. Like, that's crazy. I really like that he still got a relationship with Meek, though. Like, that's so good.

SPEAKER_17

But that but that's very telling.

SPEAKER_08

That's very, yeah, it is. It is, it is, it is. But I did want to address and break down some of the bars of who he was addressing, whatever. So um Tony Busby, the attorney, that fucking accused Hove last year, and put him in the same box as Pete Diddy or whatever, saying that he had found some lady that said that him and Diddy had fucking sexually assaulted her or something like that back in the day, whatever. But she ended up declining, by the way, whatever. So that bar for him was like, I would have hunted them. Every one of them playing these silly games. That 1-800 ambulance chaser would have wished one came. Now, 1-800 ambulance chaser is short is is is defined as a lawyer who 1-800 law. Yeah, who likes like yeah, who just who just makes up shit so people could just fucking that's weird.

SPEAKER_17

Falsify and fabricate shit to try to sue a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_08

It's a lawyer or a lawyer's agent who incites accident victims to to sue for damages. And that bar was trying to get Shoy. Yeah, yeah. That nigga was trying to get Shoy to suit Jay with those allegations last year, and that was crazy. And she ended up like, nah. Wasn't whole. Like, real quick.

SPEAKER_17

They say they saying that he hushed her up. Oh shit. No, I gotta stir the pot. No, I ain't gonna, I ain't saying nothing about that, man. Yeah, that ain't my business. I don't know nothing about that.

SPEAKER_15

My name is Benin, I ain't in it.

SPEAKER_08

I don't think it's been in it and I ain't in it.

SPEAKER_17

That's it, that's it.

SPEAKER_08

Tory lanes and his father Sunstar. The rocks not crumbling. The leprechauns have magically run out of pranks. Leprechauns, you're talking about Tory Lanez, obviously. Your son on a federal jail line mumbling something about having too much in his drink. You know how dumb that is. So that's that's um Sunstar dated Sunstar, Tory Lane's father, stated that Rock Nation, you will crumble. That was like at a fucking like a media press or something like that.

SPEAKER_17

Like, yeah, when he was standing outside.

SPEAKER_08

When his son, Tory Lane's got indicted.

SPEAKER_17

Your man stayed at the altar.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, pretty much just said, yeah, your son got drunk and dug his own grave, pretty much, or whatever. Like, cause even Tori Langs actually admitted that he had too much to fucking drink that night. He got too drunk.

SPEAKER_17

Yes, but like, what is the coincidence in murder in Tory? Connect the dots, folks. Oh boy. That's all I gotta say. I know nothing.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, the funniest one. Niggas' teeth is tumbling out their mouth, and somehow I'm the one who done it.

SPEAKER_17

Damn, damn, damn.

SPEAKER_08

It's a murder mystery, gang. You had to cash cow and dunk it. What you a bumpkin, hover dress dame dash with a slick line about his viral moment when his jibs fell out his fucking mouth.

SPEAKER_04

Looking a hot damn mess.

SPEAKER_08

His jibs fell out of his mouth, but also saying he doesn't know how the hell is Jay-Z the one responsible for Dame's downfall when he's the one who came up with the label, the plays, and also that chatty patty line was about Dame too. That chatty patty down his luck again addresses it. Also, addresses Dame Dash's like misfortunes and shit like that. I'm like, yo, this guy Hove is a very attentive fucking person or whatever, but he just takes time to respond and shit. But he likes to build it, he's like the fucking fads, bro.

SPEAKER_17

Rico. Yeah, he pulled out Rico cases on all shit.

SPEAKER_08

Hov is like the fucking feds. He he likes to build up a case and shit. Next bar in question. You have have you niggas no shame? Y'all try to get under skin. I really get underskin. Axe unhom playing. Y'all felt that? Y'all felt the game. So that was a little slight jab at Lance on Rivera back in 1999. The nigga stabbed Lance on Rivera twice, allegedly.

SPEAKER_17

Allegedly.

SPEAKER_08

Because Lance allegedly leaked volume three, Life of Times of Sean Carter.

SPEAKER_09

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08

And so he had got stabbed twice, allegedly, by Jay-Z, whatever. Gangster. But Jay-Z, yeah, I think Jay-Z Angers were getting arrested for that dumb shit or whatever.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, but I think he beat that case.

SPEAKER_08

He did beat that case, of course he did.

SPEAKER_17

I think that's when he came out with the not guilty shit with Kells. Yes. Not so long, not so long after that.

SPEAKER_08

Kelly, not guilty.

SPEAKER_05

But I'm jugging.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, yeah, that's just fine. Ya thugs, ya thumbs. Again, everyone think they the ones insane. You're no maniac. Watch how sane he acts in my presence. Niggas shrink. I need a new therapist. This shit is not working. I'm truly on the brink. Y'all better not encourage him. Y'all don't want me to. Niggas pretty much said. Yo. He pretty much said, yo, Ho pretty much said, Ye play that crazy shit with us. With the masses. But when he's in my fucking presence, the nigga does not do none of that. There's none of that extra shit. He brings that shit down to a minimum.

SPEAKER_17

Yes.

SPEAKER_08

You know what I'm saying? He shrinks himself and he humbles himself. He humbles himself in your presence. He also, it's crazy because Ye did. He violated Jay-Z and Beyonce's kids, calling them retarded and all that shit. I definitely remember I'm freestyling right now. Like he dead ass, like I remember that shit. I'm like, so like of all.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, I mean, who could forget that?

SPEAKER_08

Of all the motherfuckers, I feel like Ye was the main one that like deserved a response out of every fucking body.

SPEAKER_17

Like the most.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, like like I got I I could take Nikki and the little shit that she because she wasn't really saying shit. She was saying Rock Nation is crooked and all type of shit. She was Jaguar Wright ain't really say too much. But shit that I can ignore.

SPEAKER_17

If I'm Jay-Z, Jag did say a lot of shit.

SPEAKER_08

No, she said a lot of shit, but if I'm Jay-Z, I'm just saying, these people that's not gonna really like Yeah, they're not gonna really hurt my credibility because ain't nobody really listening to Jaguar.

SPEAKER_17

A lot of shit that they say considered to be considerable credible sources. Right.

SPEAKER_08

But yeah, but Ye is a different thing. Yeah, is fucking uh he's a he's a fucking he's a monster.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, he's huge. Shout out to Yeah, he's actually on tour right now.

SPEAKER_08

You know what I'm saying? For you to be out here calling my kids retarded is fucking insane. Yeah, that's that's over me personally. I feel like if I was Jay-Z, of all people, Kanye West deserved a bar before any even before Drake. I know Drake said some slick shit or whatever, whatever. But even before Drake, I feel like Kanye West deserved it. Drake said a couple of things, he said a lot of shit. But that was my opinion as far as like the whole Kanye shit or whatever. But that was that was for Kanye. Yeah, just calling the kids the R-word is crazy, man. Like that's that's fucking wild. He he's uh Shino is he's from state property back in the day or whatever. Like if you grew up around that time, then you know that Oshino was always, and I could be saying his name, I'm like butchering his name probably. But he always stuttered. Like he always stuttered, and it took me a while to like kind of realize who the fuck was talking about. He said that nut ass nigga. But I was like, but if you say nut ass, that's very specific. You're talking about somebody from Philly. That's Philly slang. They call somebody some nut ass nigga, whatever. Like, like that's that's a very specific part of the geographic, man. That's so um, but he said that nut ass nigga still stuttering. I'm like, yo, the only but a lot of Philly niggas stutter. A lot of Philly niggas stutter. Yes, like it's it's a lot of Philly niggas stutter. But I'm like, the only nigga that was really stuttering a lot that I know of growing up, watching like smack DVDs and that shit was definitely motherfucking uh Austin. But yeah, he was just I think he caught a bar because he'd been like talking crazy about the old Rockefeller days, like back in the day on like numerous podcasters and platforms trying to remain relevant. Quest, I mean my bad. Jaguar Wright caught one. He said Quest introduced me to Jaguar. I don't know why I still fuck with him. He she caught the lightest bar, but I feel like she deserved a little bit more.

SPEAKER_17

I ain't gonna lie, Jag, that was a light straight right there.

SPEAKER_08

That was a light ass straight. Yeah, that was a graze.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

A flesh wound, nigga.

SPEAKER_17

That part contributes to that because that was a fucking flesh wound. I listened to a lot of interviews that Jag did. With Jag Wall Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like whether it had been on her own platform or like doing, you know, doing videos with I mean doing interviews with Lad or just anybody else who just wanted to stir the pot and knew that she was gonna just be a chatty patty.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_17

You know what I'm saying? Like I dame that. But I but can I keep it real though? I'm gonna keep it all the way 100. A lot of that shit before it unfolded, and I'm gonna piv I'm right now I'm uh I'm uh I'm gonna probably pivot a little bit and get off track real quick. But a lot of shit that Jack said, all that shit that unfolded with Diddy came way after all the things that she said. And and a lot of the shit that she said was true.

SPEAKER_13

You think so?

SPEAKER_17

So it's yes, a lot of shit that she a lot of shit was factual, bro. Because look at what happened in the court.

SPEAKER_08

So you think she do know some shit about Hope?

SPEAKER_17

Um she knows shit about everybody. I feel like what happened, and I and I and I agree 100 100%. I feel like it's not what I feel like, it's it's what the people know. Jack got blackboard.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_05

I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

And she was just unf unfortunately another artist, another female artist who was blackboard for whatever reason. But sis knows too much. She knows a whole lot, and and but that's another reason why she can't be touched neither. You know what I'm saying? Because then there's gonna be eyes looking at these other folks, like you know, could it have been this one? Everybody's gonna be considered a suspect, you know?

SPEAKER_08

Should I look at where she's from? Speaking of which, from Philly though. Yeah, she's from Philly. Oh, Jag?

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, Jag Jag is from Philly, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, 49 years old. Mm-hmm. I thought she was like a part of a group or some shit like that.

SPEAKER_17

She was, she was discovered by if anything, uh, she used to be with Quest and them.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, yes. It says she used to be with The Roots, yes. Yes, yes. She collaborated alongside rap acts such as The Roots, Jay-Z, and Black Alicious.

SPEAKER_17

Exactly.

SPEAKER_08

Oh boy.

SPEAKER_17

But this is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_08

Like So you think she do know some shit, though?

SPEAKER_17

Yeah. I mean, look, it's so real that Cassie moved out of the States. She lives in a whole nother country.

SPEAKER_08

Cassie moved to a whole nother country, man.

SPEAKER_14

And she ain't trying to get it.

SPEAKER_08

So they they they can do things that you're your basic wealthy person can't do.

SPEAKER_17

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08

Mm-hmm. Or couldn't do because they they would get caught.

SPEAKER_17

That part. But back to Jay. I just feel like a lot of that shit, bro. It was very a lot of shit that he said, like, as far as that freestyle is concerned, I just felt like there was just some things that could have been like pushed aside.

SPEAKER_08

Like, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Like, I don't I don't think because because of who we're talking about. It's Jay-Z.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Mr. Sean Carter, right? He shouldn't even have to feel the need to have to respond to any of I feel you. A lot of the shit that he responded to.

SPEAKER_08

But but me know Jay-Z and the Jay-Z Acker with the. I mean, yes, he was at some point gonna respond.

SPEAKER_17

No, he was gonna respond. Yes.

SPEAKER_08

Just that he wasn't gonna jump to it at their like, you know what I mean? They're gonna be able to do it. Exactly. Like, I want to do it on my fucking terms.

SPEAKER_17

No, yeah, his own recognition, and that's totally.

SPEAKER_08

You're right. Like, I'm all the way the fuck up here. I shouldn't have to respond.

SPEAKER_17

I shouldn't even have to respond or entertain, but because of the simple fact that I know who the fuck I am, yeah, now I have to respond.

SPEAKER_08

Now I have to respond. He's still got he still got that competitive spirit with him.

SPEAKER_17

For sure. I mean, the shit is a sport. It's a sport, yeah. It's a sport.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. Two more people caught a straight. Well, I'm gonna say four more people caught a straight, but that lady back on that stuff again, she sounds like she in love with him. Her kin, and Ken being a double entendre, her kin, or triple entendre, as a matter of fact, I should say. Her kin can't even take the kid. Enough of them. So I I feel like he he addressed Nicki Minaj, her husband Kenneth Petty, and her brother. And Nikki been talking crazy about Jane Rock Nation for years. We all fucking her dad. And it seems like he thinks her erratic behavior is derived from like her possible usage of drugs again. I'm not too sure specifically what drugs Nicki Minaj was on. She definitely was on.

SPEAKER_17

She was messing with the white girl, Paul's.

SPEAKER_08

Oh wow. Nice. And uh he even claimed she's back with Ken, her husband, Ken Kenneth, and that her kin can't even babysit her kids due to his accusations. So I said it was a triple entendre because Ken when he when he said her kin can't even take the kid. That's so funny. Meaning her husband Ken.

SPEAKER_12

Yes.

SPEAKER_08

Or you know how Nick Minaj calls her a Barbie. And Barb Barbie's counterpart is Ken. Ken. Yeah, her Ken couldn't take the kid. Or her Ken, K-I-N, whatever, like a fucking what the fuck?

SPEAKER_04

Like what the fuck?

SPEAKER_08

Like, this nigga Hove is really on a whole different level, bro. Like, I ain't gonna lie to you. Top tier. O D. O D. But I know Breaking Millage is gonna definitely respond at some point. She's gonna get high as fuck and respond. And the biggest one of the night, Jay Oh, Drake. My next update, the jig is up. Nigga, I'm up 10. Wrong chart, champ. You gotta look up again. Niggas look up the hove. I never looked up to them. The crackers got your publishing. Go talk tough to them. Don't talk success to me. You niggas is workers. And perpetuity is how your contract is worded. Clearly, Hove addressed all of like the Drake jabs on his recent Iceman album. So he really saved the best for last by flexing it. It's like true billionaire whole fashion or whatever. I feel like that shit was flames. But do you think he cleaned up Drake with that? Nah. Nah. Nah, he ain't clean up Drake with that.

SPEAKER_17

Nah, I just think that is.

SPEAKER_08

I don't think he cleaned up anybody, but I just think he just let everybody know I heard everything that y'all were saying. And if I do want to clean y'all up, I can.

SPEAKER_17

And I will.

SPEAKER_08

You know, but I'm listening. My ears are open.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

God Hofer is listening.

SPEAKER_17

But do you think that this is something that he needs to do? Do you think that Drake is gonna fall for the bait? After that response?

SPEAKER_08

No, no, no, no. I think what I think what Jay's doing.

SPEAKER_17

He's a Scorpio. He's a Scorpio. He's gonna respond.

SPEAKER_08

He's gonna respond, but he he's gonna do it the same way Drake Jay's doing it. He's not gonna spawn like immediately, bro. It's not, it's no, no.

SPEAKER_17

It's gonna make it seem like that's Drake's Bowser. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

That's Bowser right there. If Drake is Super Mario, Jay-Z is Bowser, my nigga. He's not gonna just fucking just jump. Nah, I gotta practice first, nigga. I gotta spar first, nigga. I gotta this is this is chess, not checkers, bro.

SPEAKER_17

That part.

SPEAKER_08

For for shit, sure. Are you shitting me? Are you fucking nigga? Hell nah. Anybody could just walk into a ring with a fucking Mike Tyson.

SPEAKER_17

No.

SPEAKER_08

No.

SPEAKER_17

Get your ear bit off.

SPEAKER_08

You gonna even if you whipping his ass, yeah, you're gonna get something bit the fuck off. That's it, man. I'm nah. Nah, he's not gonna respond like that to no Jay-Z, though. For sure. But if a Kendrick was to respond like tomorrow, he'll have a response tomorrow. But not Jay-Z.

SPEAKER_09

Not Jay.

SPEAKER_08

No, not Jay. And I still don't even think it's really beef like that between him and Jay-Z, though, honestly speaking. I think they just doing what they've been doing. They just be jabbing at each other over the course of their fucking careers.

SPEAKER_17

Because they always come back together.

SPEAKER_08

They always end up on a sonic other. I just think I just think they'd be sharpening iron. Like, yeah. Jay-Z don't really got a lot of a lot of equals. He don't got a lot of equals like that. Like beside what with all due respect to like a Nas. Yeah, I was just all niggas or whatever. No, no, I'm just saying niggas that's I'm talking about niggas that's active right now. Like active, like, like actively like just doing shit or whatever. Like, yeah. Jay ain't got a lot of that right now.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Drake is the only nigga like that's really on his playing field. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, if Drake is gonna spar on me, my nigga, okay, I'm gonna engage too. But it ain't really that deep. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't think I don't think it really gotta be. It does. It does. But I don't know. And maybe that could be me just wishfully thinking and hopefully there's no no war between my two of my uh best artists, my favorite artists.

SPEAKER_17

That'll be very unfortunate, wouldn't it, bro? It would be speaking of it would be damn DJ Head's Cali friendly.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, this shit, man.

SPEAKER_17

Edit exposes regional bias and hip hop. Man, listen.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I don't I don't like this. I don't like this at all because it irks me.

SPEAKER_17

It irks me.

SPEAKER_08

DJ Head made a uh a Cali friendly version of Too Hard for the Radio. Yeah. So I don't know, and I didn't know.

SPEAKER_17

I don't think that he should have had any. He should, I'm sorry, he should have never had any, whatchamacallit.

SPEAKER_08

I don't know if he's fucking Kendrick's DJ or if he's a TDE DJ. It don't matter what DJ does. Either way. Either way, exactly. Either way, and you and you're from the West Coast. Either way. Yeah, he's gonna play. He shouldn't even like the song, period. Period. Because I I even when I first heard the song, I felt like Drake was like fucking mocking the West Coast when he did the song. Or mocking.

SPEAKER_17

He was mocking K D Dot.

SPEAKER_08

He was mocking K Dot or whatever. Like I feel like he was mocking. So I don't think that he really intentionally wanted to make the song like as big as what it or of what head is trying to make it pause, trying to make it, make it whatever. Because I don't even know the song is not even that big in New York right now, right? Or I could be wrong, because I'm not even sure.

SPEAKER_17

Nah, too hard for the radio is definitely up on the charts right now. I'm like told you, yeah, it's it's it's cool.

SPEAKER_08

But I feel like Drake didn't even really put effort into that shit. Like it was it was just more like a man nigga. I'm the hitmaker. Let me let me let me show you how I really do this shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, what because if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, what was um the Kendrick song called again? They not like us. That was Kitchen Lamar's first attempt at like trying to make like a fucking radio friendly type of fucking. Am I am I bugging or not? Like look, of course, he had like sit down, be humble. He had he had he had swimming pools, he had a bunch of shit, but I don't think those songs were intentionally trying to be crafted for the radio. For the radio this song, they not like us, was intentionally crafted for radio play. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_17

Like it wasn't much K Dot.

SPEAKER_08

Drake Knight ain't never did no shit like that. Ever.

SPEAKER_17

Like he just he just did music because let me know if I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_08

Alright.

SPEAKER_17

And and whatchamacallit?

SPEAKER_08

Oh, they're gonna be alright. Nah, I don't, you know what? I don't think he did alright to make it radio play. I just think he was trying to make a statement with the game.

SPEAKER_17

He was making a statement, yeah. He was he was trying to make a statement with the shit. But he definitely did both though.

SPEAKER_08

But it it accomplished the radio play shape. But that's what I'm saying. You're right, you're right, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I don't think I don't think that's what he was going for. I don't think he ever goes for that. If he's gonna go for something, it's gonna be for a message or it's gonna be for a statement. It's more poetic. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's more poetic. It just so happened it that just crossed both thresholds or something like that. But he don't ever struggle as an artist that does that. He did that with they not like us. But that's not and Drake was like, no, let me really show you how to do this shit, my dad.

SPEAKER_17

I just don't think that whether Drake did it because of that reason, I just think that Kendra don't care. He was just putting shit out there. Yes, you know what I'm saying? Like I agreed, agreed. He already had his his fan base, like he knew his audience was gonna feed into it. Of course. You know what I'm saying? He has a very loyal fan base, too. Yeah, for sure. Like, whether he's standing on it or you know, that's anything there. Anyway, I just think that he should have just never gotten involved, period. Like you said, like you should have been anti versus because they still gonna play it in the bay. Well then let them niggas play it in the bay.

SPEAKER_12

Right.

SPEAKER_17

Why do you feel like you need to have you know what I'm saying? Yeah, parts on that. I don't understand. Because he said it himself, like, oh, like, well, I decided that it makes sense because whether I got involved or not, I know that in the bay they were still because the bay fuck with Drake really hard.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Oh, he said that? Yeah, they said that in the in the fucking idea he did, yes. You know what I'm saying? Like he said niggas in the bay was gonna still play his music regardless.

SPEAKER_08

That is a bay. And you know what? And K Dot isn't from Los Angeles, he's from the Bay. Something like that. Like, like I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_09

I thought he was from Compton.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, he is from Compton. No, I'm thinking about Tupac, my bad. I'm fucking chipping away. Yeah, K Dot from Compton. He's from Compton. Yes, Drake is just trying to get the Bay The Bay folks divided from uh fucking, yes. That's that's what he's trying to do.

SPEAKER_17

Whatever.

SPEAKER_08

So Yeah, creating a Cali-friendly version of uh of the song that's mimic. He's creating a Cali-friendly version of a song that's mimicking West Coast style beat, cadence, and taking shots at Kendrick at the same fucking time throughout the whole fucking song. That shit is weird to me. So I was just like, if you if you're affiliated with K Dot or TDE and you want to make a a disc-free, friendly, Cali-friendly version of that song, it tells me that you kind of like the song. It tells me that you the middle man.

SPEAKER_17

You can't be trusted. You an op.

SPEAKER_08

You're like, you know, you know what?

SPEAKER_17

If I was K Dow, I'd be like, yo, you an op, bro.

SPEAKER_08

I'm gonna make a version for you, DJs, to play this song. So y'all won't feel no kind of way about this nigga, this and the homie. Nigga, you like the song, bro.

SPEAKER_17

I think he you like the song. I think it's a little more than like the song.

SPEAKER_08

You love this song, bro, because it's just like, bro, bro, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, you're Drake, but my my big homie is Kendrick Lamar, and I'm side with him. Like, yo, like look at buttons. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_17

Like, you need to stand on your baby.

SPEAKER_08

I'm dead.

SPEAKER_17

Sorry, I had to put that out there.

SPEAKER_08

So nigga removed all this is in the smut being thrown on niggas' names to defeat the fact that I don't know. Like the song is really on DSPs being sold everywhere and all that shit. Like, to to to I I I kinda gotta find this version. I've heard I had to find it. I wanna listen to it.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, I want to hear it too.

SPEAKER_08

I want to listen to it. Like, what exactly did he remove from that fucking that just go to show me that you really did like the Drake version? I don't know. But if Dude considers this trolling joking and jokes on him, honestly, it was a terrible move. Like, he should just let the song along and just liked it in private. If you like the song, my nigga, just like it in private. Don't even tell us that you made a fucking Cali friendly version of this shit. None of this shit. Like, I just feel like if you like the song, my nigga, just listen to it in your fucking in your Serrado in private. You know what I mean? I feel like Drake did the song to be petty and to show Kendrick how making it hit is actually done over a West Coast type beat. And how easy it's had it's petty behavior, but it is definitely very easy for a Drake.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, or how possible it is.

SPEAKER_08

He did that shit.

SPEAKER_17

That's the bubbly talking.

SPEAKER_08

He did that shit, and you co-signed it, my nigga. You co you co-signed it by just taking out the disses. Ooh, yeah, I took out the disses. Like, he's not gonna mention Kenja's name in this fucking verse. But you still fucking push the shit, bro. Like, you still exposed it. You still exposed it.

SPEAKER_17

Stupid.

SPEAKER_08

Even if you monetized off of it, my nigga, you still exposed it, my nigga. Like, oh, I wonder what the actual version sounds like once I hear this version.

SPEAKER_17

That's the tale of Fool of Fools.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

If you tell me this is shame on you.

SPEAKER_08

If I lived on the West Coast, well, I I can't hear you.

SPEAKER_17

No, no, I said, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on you.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_17

That's exactly what that gave. Not for nothing.

SPEAKER_08

If I lived in the West Coast and you told me this is a version that you created, like I had take out a couple of shit, and then okay, I listened to that version, and I end up liking it. Like, oh, this is hard. Hmm. Let me listen to the actual version. Like, let me see what that sounded like or whatever. I'm just saying. Yeah, you kind of still help me out a little bit, bro. If I'm drink. Well, whatever.

SPEAKER_17

People out here like cover, they they put in their tail under your ass. I'm saying motherfuckers get caught up in a pickle situation, back against the wall. Now we sitting here playing, playing victim. Oh, yeah. I won't play phone, but I think people just need to take full accountability and responsibility for all that they do and all of their behaviors and all of the things that they decide, like, yeah, that that that's the one right there, bro. That's the one. Speaking of which, and and speaking of like being in certain situations and positions, younger main, her situation, her battle with her health conditions. I mean, shh. And where she's at now, and you know, her most recent album called Queen. If you're out, did you hear that shit? So I um I definitely I definitely tapped in. I definitely listened to the maybe first five tracks, and then like paid attention to the first five tracks. Yeah. The rest I just let ride out.

SPEAKER_08

Background music.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Something that I will revisit. I think what piqued my interest more or less was the reels that I was seeing, or like little videos, clips of her most recent interview with Shannon Sharp on Club Shay Shay. All that she had experienced and and you know, her connection with God and her understanding of like what was the actual reason as to why she was where she was at in her life and what had warranted those events to occur to begin with. I was just gonna say that. You know.

SPEAKER_08

I feel like like she she should have been like the next big thing uh for New York City alongside alongside Pop Smoke. Yeah, and for sure. Life, like, like, like life started life and she took a leave of absence, obviously. Mm-hmm. Cause you know, she you just her brother and she got into drinking and all that shit, so life really saw life in. But I feel like this album was like a testament to her disappearance and shit. This was personal. Like Lava said, and it felt it was personal, it felt personal. Yeah, I like that.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah. Something that I did pick up and uh, you know, a takeaway from me, like with her most recent interview, was more or less like people able to say that they believe in God, but don't have a real connection with God.

SPEAKER_13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

A relationship with God, right? And and but you know what's unfortunate? It's not their fault. It's not their fault. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because a motherfucker could go to church, like she said, all their life. This is how they was brought up. And you can know sermons, you can know this, you can know that, and and scriptures, and but that don't mean all you know necessarily that you're connected with him. It was just something that you were just accustomed to because this is what you were exposed to. Absolutely. You know what I'm saying? And it's not that that's not depicting or negating that they believe in God. Cause yes, well, all of that being said, you went to church because you ain't have a choice. But that doesn't mean that they didn't believe in him. The choice was to continue that ongoing relationship with God. You know what I'm saying? And and knowing how to have that conversation with him, and also having to actually go through an experience to be able to say, Okay, yeah, I I know that there's a God. Right. I believe in God. Right. But now I need to have a conversation with God and ask him for real, why was this the reason why you know I ended up in this situation to begin with? Right, right. You know, God, God puts his, what is it, his toughest shoulders, uh soldiers to the He was his hardest job to the Sugar Solders. To the softest shoulders, uh soldiers. Hardest battles of soft shoulders. Yeah, hardest battles to the softest shoulders. Soldiers. That's the lovely talking, guys. Yeah, yeah, what the fuck I'm saying. Respectfully, you hurt? He's just lit. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. I'm a little I'm a little schmiss. Shout out to young man. But she, you know, she she went through a lot. She went through a lot, unfortunately. And everybody know, if you know, you know, like a lot of people, and this is not even me being funny. A lot of people thought, like, you know, when she came out with ooh, they're like, yo, yo, temp, that's you on the radio. I'm like, what? Nah, that ain't me, you know. Like nah, she did. Yeah, yeah, that got the same, like kind of the same swag swag and all that shit. Back then when I was because that that time when she came out with ooh, that's when I was And that's when you was popping off. I was I was heavy in my shit, and you know, I didn't I didn't drop my shit. I didn't release none of it because I was going through some my own personal shit. Right. Same as her, right? Circumstances was different though. But I say all of that to say this, like in the sense of like I I never hated on her, right? I always appreciated the fact that finally someone who looked like me, and I don't mean in the physical sense, like I get what you mean. I get what you mean you know, who who walks the same path in that sense, like has finally made a mark in this industry. Yeah, and and and that right there made me proud. That's why I could never be a hater. I could never be a hater. What I can say is that I was never like the biggest fan of her. Like, oh, like I'm about to go to this, you know, young MA show, like that I fuck with heavy, 100 grand. No, I'm not gonna, I'm I'm not gonna fake the funk. So what made you what made you want to listen to the album though? What made me want to listen to the album was the fact that people was clowning her online when she was going through her health situation.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, that's fucking crazy.

SPEAKER_17

Man, that was something else that was brought to the attention on Club Shay Shay that bothered me because it's just like, you know, she said, how can I be mad at somebody who I didn't really have much of a relationship with versus somebody if it was close to me, hell yeah, I ain't I'm gonna look at you sideways, like how could you do that to me? You know what I'm saying? And which in all actuality actually did happen. I mean, with her ex-girlfriend, you know, that's not my story to tell, but you know, like from based off like the shit that was said and you know, things that she did take personal versus as opposed to the things that she didn't take personal, I think I I gotta give it to her. I commend her for that a hundred percent because whether I had a personal relationship with you or not, you know, it's not it's not your place to be putting my situation out there. Allow me to explain what's going on. But then, like she also said, there's certain things like when it comes to this music shit, music is for the fans. Personal shit is for personal life, you know, and but uh again, and I'm gonna keep saying it, and I I'm gonna die on the hill saying this shit. I just feel like when you get involved and you get into this lifestyle, it's what comes with it. You know what I'm saying? You can't be mad at nobody, and I think that's why she says that she don't take it personal. But I think that this is why it was meant to happen, and it was it was for her. Because had that been me, I would have flew off the fucking handle.

unknown

Off the fucking handle.

SPEAKER_17

That's true, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, that that's what that's what actually That's what motivated me to that that's what prompted prompted me to go and listen to her newest album because for one, it's been years. Yeah, right? Yes, yeah. She, you know, I didn't like it. Came a long way too. Oh yeah. I think that she's definitely sharpened her craft and and and she's she's onto something. Yeah. She's on to something, and you know, and I love that for her, respectfully. Yeah. I did the uh shout out to Young and May.

SPEAKER_08

The Queen Project sounds uh it sounds vulnerable, it sounds mature.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah. She in a different thing.

SPEAKER_08

Still gritty, but clean. But clean. Production is impeccable. The lyrics are still Young and May. And I don't know. I like to see the space that she's in at this moment. And I love that she sobered up. She addressed her health concerns all over this album. It's uh it's an incredible project. Uh I do have a question for you. Why why this is stupid? I feel like I know what he was about to say.

SPEAKER_17

Why does it say shit, Charlamagne Bennett?

SPEAKER_08

Why those studs love them some straight women, man?

SPEAKER_17

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08

Just snatching them up from all the fellas, man.

SPEAKER_17

Alright, we're gonna pretend like I'm not married.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. And don't get mad when you hear this shit, man. I I just need I need an actual answer from this.

SPEAKER_17

I think it's the chase.

SPEAKER_08

The thrill.

SPEAKER_17

It's the thrill. And I and and and like she said, like, I ain't gonna lie, like, uh I sli I slid in DMs. Like, she said she ain't never slid no DMs. I'ma I'ma just say what it is. I slid in DMs respectfully. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Cap.

SPEAKER_08

For young and me, not you. Yeah. She said she never slid in no DMs.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, she said she never slid in no female DM. That they slid in her they slid in her DMs that she was sitting there with a bow face. I said, nah, I can't, ain't no way. Ain't no way.

SPEAKER_08

Well, go ahead, sis.

SPEAKER_17

You telling me, you telling me you ain't, you see something, you ain't gonna say nothing. Like she she talked about a situation that she was in a situation of her man's chick, and she was like, Yeah, like she wasn't interested in the chick or whatever. Um that's beside the point. For me, I mean there's a lot of there's a lot of women who present as because club because Shannon Sharp did ask her, like, did she fuck with a dude before before? Because they because now we're getting personal, right? Like he was like

SPEAKER_08

She confirmed that she didn't?

SPEAKER_17

No, she she said she never fucked with a guy before.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, that probably changed.

SPEAKER_17

But she had her little boyfriends. She had little boyfriends when she was younger. As I probably changed her. When I was a kid, I had this little white boy in North Carolina, Skylar. Like, you know, little Eminem Slim Shady ass. Yeah. And then my first official boyfriend was when I was 19 years old. Hey yo, what the f I mean it is what it is. I was going through something. I don't know. Maybe. But you know, that's that's the bro. Listen, a lot of people don't fess up to shit. I I'm listening, I don't lie on this bird. You're stupid. Respectfully, like it is what it is. But as far as like when it comes to hear shit like this on a lot of uh this has been a topic of conversation for a long time in a lot of different circles and tables that I've been in and sat at. Not only is it the thrill, I think it like part of what Young A May said also, I could attest to it, is like once you have fun with them, or they get whatever they needed out of the whole little 2.5 fling situation.

SPEAKER_02

Move on.

SPEAKER_17

They go back to you know, a sausage fest, and we go back to just living our life.

SPEAKER_08

Like go back to the taco party.

SPEAKER_17

That's it, and just living life. I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, like I ain't gonna lie, I dealt with a lot of chicks in my past.

SPEAKER_08

Like, probably thought that I turned them out. Maybe you ain't gotta incriminate yourself, don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_17

Nah, she knows about it. I don't give a fuck. This is real. But anywho, these all these bitches ended up getting pregnant and got kids. Yeah. I'm like, well, there goes Washed up.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Washed up. Yeah. Pack him up. Pack him up.

SPEAKER_17

Listen, we're here for a good time, not a long time, baby.

SPEAKER_08

God damn right. And that's and that's that's pretty much what it is. End result, end result. That's pretty much ultimately what I'm hearing out of this whole conversation.

SPEAKER_17

Yes.

SPEAKER_08

Here for a good time. Not a long time. Not a long time.

SPEAKER_17

Not a long time. Because I'm sorry, every straight female, I hate the whole They do want that experience. I've never been into a group.

SPEAKER_08

No, no, no. I don't give a fuck. You know how many times I've heard. Every straight female will want to experience that at least once in their fucking life. Yes. I promise you that. Because not only are y'all getting satisfied from guys. No, at all. I can definitely say that. At all. I can definitely say that. I can say that. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Alright. That's a personal thing. You can definitely say everyone. Am I getting ahead of myself right now? A little bit. But every I know every I know every straight people I can fucking definitely. They cannot say that they've been they're being satisfied for sure. You sure? Absolutely. So I know everybody is thinking to go that route. They're curious. Someone's strong enough to not go that route, but they're definitely thinking about it. Or thought about it at some point. You know? I could be wrong.

SPEAKER_17

Oh yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_08

It could be all wrong. Is that for sure? Yeah, I gotta prove me wrong. Let us know in the fucking comments. But y'all won't do that.

SPEAKER_17

If I call up your shorty right now, she picking up, yeah. Oh man.

SPEAKER_08

So yeah, nice.

SPEAKER_17

No, but it's funny though, because them straight bitches always come back.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, do they really? Nah, hold on. Do they really?

SPEAKER_17

Listen, when they when they bored, do they really? They want to submit the tape, but they always go back, bro.

SPEAKER_08

Go back to where is it?

SPEAKER_17

They return to Sunder.

SPEAKER_08

Oh nah.

SPEAKER_17

And then that's when we gotta hit them with the curve, with the whoa. Like, nah, bitch.

SPEAKER_08

Go back to your original center.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, go to your master. Not to the receiver, please. Absolutely nah. I'm not catching it, respectfully.

SPEAKER_08

That's toxic as fuck. It is. Speaking of toxic, too. Your man Black dropped the new album, man. Love is the new gangster. Yeah. He taps into RB more. That's how I'm talking about it. I love that he taps into RB more. Got a question.

SPEAKER_17

Oh boy. Because everybody knows how I feel about Black.

SPEAKER_08

Can these music artists move around? Can they survive without toxicity?

SPEAKER_17

No. And I and I'm and I'm people. And I agree with you. And I'm people. You know why? Because I waited so long for this guy to drop a project. I'm not going to say that I don't like this most recent project, but I'm not the biggest fan of this project. And I and I feel like. No, I I like it. But I do I enjoy it, is the question. I don't know. Maybe it gotta take some time the same way when Certified Lover Boy came out and it needed to grow on me. It's probably the same thing. I maybe revisit it maybe two times. I don't know. I think I gotta just listen to it again and in solace and just The Blackout.

SPEAKER_08

Yes.

SPEAKER_17

Not Jay-Z.

SPEAKER_08

Yes. The blackout. The Love is a new gangster album. The Love is a new gangster album.

SPEAKER_17

I gotta listen to it.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, listen to it. It's actually a fire album.

SPEAKER_17

I heard it two times, but I don't know. I don't I you know what it is? I'm used to toxic black.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, he's just sounds a little bit more mature on this shit. Nah, I'm not gonna lie. He's no, there is still some toxic elements in there though.

SPEAKER_17

No, there is, but it's not, it's not, it don't.

SPEAKER_08

You gotta look for it though.

SPEAKER_17

No, but it's just not hitting the same.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_17

It's not hitting the same. And and I think that's how I felt about Brent Fire's album.

SPEAKER_08

The new shit they just came out with. Icon. That shit is a complete 180, though.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, it wasn't gonna lie. It's not what I'm used to. I'm a creature of habit. I think it's because I'm a creature of habit, bro. Like, I'm just like I'm a creature of habit.

SPEAKER_08

That's a good uh analysis.

SPEAKER_17

I I I think that's exactly what it is. Like, uh because it's like that's like somebody telling you, like, once you have your mind fixated on something, like there's no change. That's just what it is, and that's just what it is, and and I'm one of those people, like, you know, like assertive, like very I can see that.

SPEAKER_08

Okay, like you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_17

Like this is what it is, and if it is either that or it's nothing. And it sounds kind of narcissistic and fucked up in a way, but it's just like how could you fault me for being used to something or accustomed to something? Yeah, not being, but being comfortable with it.

SPEAKER_08

Okay.

SPEAKER_17

I think sometimes like we just don't need to move out of those squares. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes we just gotta keep shit in the box. You know? Unfortunately, sometimes people don't have those they don't have control because they have to own up to whatever contracts or whatever the hell that you know, we don't know the playbook in all of these artists' lives, right? But I just feel like more or less like if this is what the label got you doing, then you're doing exactly what you said in the very beginning that you wasn't gonna do. And I think that's another thing that throws me in a sense.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08

And then it makes it that's usually the case for a lot of these motherfuckers. And it makes me look at you. They're not selling their soul. They end up selling their soul, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Like, yeah, whether they make it on a personal level, whereas like I feel like again, like you said, Black has taken a different lane, like in the sense of like how he orchestrated this, right? Maybe this is all true. I I believe, like, you know, he just had his baby, this and that. Like, it was a lot going on in his life throughout his hiatus, right? But I also feel like granted, all of that shit may be true with all the things that he that he said in these tracks, right? But I also feel like it was forced.

SPEAKER_08

Do you really?

SPEAKER_17

I I I do feel like because I don't feel like that's his true being. I feel like it is. As much as I hate to admit it, I don't think this is one of those moments that I feel like you you get it what you asked for.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_17

You gotta agree to disagree because I'm I'm true to the shit when it comes to black. Like a lot of niggas don't so you feel like you something so short by by acting toxic?

SPEAKER_08

Because I feel like his his music was always toxic.

SPEAKER_17

His music, you know, his absolutely. His music is a big thing.

SPEAKER_08

It ain't like Bryce and Tiller toxic, but he got some shit in there. I don't know. Oh, you're talking about with this new album. With the new album, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

You're not saying all in a general sense. Exactly, yeah. Yeah, no, it's not Bryce and Tiller toxic. But if if it does have a little toxic, you know what it I don't know. Like he said land a love letter compared to like free black. That's like Miles.

SPEAKER_08

That's still him, yeah. But that's still him. But they still I I see what you mean though.

SPEAKER_17

You understand?

SPEAKER_08

I see what you mean.

SPEAKER_17

I see what you mean. He was unapologetically saying shit, like in the sense of like this is what I'm saying. Either you fuck with it or you don't. Right? Yeah, this is who I am, and if you don't like it, kick rocks, bitch. Kiss my aunt. Right? Versus like what he's doing now. I don't know, again, maybe because you know, the birth of the child, life experiences, and only shaping you to go into this type of lane, maybe. Even if it wasn't a label, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

I get you. Right? I get you. Does that make sense? Yeah, I get you. I just don't no no for me to answer this to that question. Um as much as I hate to admit it, I I I I don't think music artists or the industry could survive without toxicity. That shit gets the people going. Toxicity is as bad as it sounds, it's exciting, and boring music doesn't stand a chance without it. And there's a space and ears for for for like that, but for like boring music, but if you're trying to go for like the masses, I don't think if you left toxicity off the table, it's gonna work for you. Unless like you got a core following or like a loyal day one fan base situation or something like that, you know what I'm saying? Like, but I feel like toxicity, like it really gets people going in this day and age. Like definitely gotta like.

SPEAKER_17

Do you think that is because it's the new norm?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I honestly feel like that.

SPEAKER_17

I feel like toxicity has always been a thing, though.

SPEAKER_08

It's been like Yeah, since like the fucking 60s, it's been a thing. Like toxic yo toxicity's been in music for a long ass time. It just it just sounds different and each fucking decade or whatever. But like, yeah, it's been around for a long fucking time. Look, this it's not that this is not the healthiest shit to speak, but you know, it gotta rain before the sunshine. Like, we need a lot of bad shit to happen before we have anything good in the music or whatever. Like, motherfuckers gotta go through it just to pull anything good out of this fucking music, bro. Like, niggas gotta go through pain, nigga. Like, uh, that's just that's just what it was. It's been like that forever.

SPEAKER_17

There's one of two things that's gonna happen. He he's either gonna like continue evolving after this project, or he's gonna go silent again for a little while.

SPEAKER_08

Is he gonna What do we want from him? Do we want him to go silent?

SPEAKER_17

No, I don't want him to go silent. I've been I've been I'm like radioactive. Like we like what are we doing, brother man? What are we doing? Like, I need you to continue pushing shit out.

SPEAKER_13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Because what happens is that my attention span is so limited. The ADD be like not under control. So to keep it a stack, it's just like when they go on these long-ass hiatuses, I I and I get it, like you need time, like greatness is not rushed, it can never be rushed. You cannot, no, you cannot, I'm telling you, and but there's no such thing as perfection either. And and and and I think that's where people, you know, there's a lot of blurred lines when it comes to that, because people think that, oh yeah, like maybe if I take this amount of time off, like there's not always gonna be a Drake, there's not always gonna be a Jay-Z, there's not gonna always be a Michael Jackson, Chris Brown, so on and so forth. I think y'all get the picture. There's not gonna be another yay, a genius.

SPEAKER_08

And I need people to stop going for that. Just do you, just do you, and do you, like those artists did them.

SPEAKER_17

Yes, but and and and but at your own pace. At your own pace. You don't gotta like I I think I think when niggas get it fucked up is this is trying to utilize the same playbook. Or the same plays, but that's what I'm saying, yeah. Different plays, but same plays but different playbooks, and I think that's the problem. And that's why it's not working out. Oh, I'm gonna take a hiatus, I'ma go, I'ma go ghost on these niggas for like a year or two. I'm gonna come back out with some shit. And then I come back out. Yeah, I'm gonna this shit gonna be fire. But guess what? It may be fire disrespectful. I'm trying to remember what I was saying. Oh, yes. What happens is that pretty much we lose interest. Yeah, and there goes and there goes that confidence out the window that we had in you as an artist and somebody that we connected with on a different, you know what I'm saying? On a different level, and I and I think that's where I'm at. And that's how it it could be with me, in a sense, like I could fuck with you heavy as an artist, but the moment that you go silent for a while, but then you come back with some shit that I'm sitting there having to like constantly revisit.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Cause now I feel like I'm forcing myself to like it just because I fuck with you as an artist overall. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, if that makes sense. Yeah, man, that's not fair, because then I feel like it trips it trips up the fan. It gives them mixed emotions on whether or not they fuck with them.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. I see what you mean.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, it's like who are you really? I see what you mean. Who the fuck like are you this person or are you that person? How many different versions are we gonna? It's giving split. It's giving split. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08

The fuck? Sweetie, yeah. Black's album was tough. That shit is tough. I find it hard to believe that this project won't do good. It it it's already on tour. Yeah. Oh yeah? Good. Well, it it shows growth. It shows it shows growth. It shows he's still toxic. I love that it's more RB based. Yeah. He sounds a tad bit more conscious. The production is incredible. I love that he has his daughter on the album on album artwork. And there's a lot of positive shit going on with that shit, man. I I I actually love it for that, man. And to to talk to a few of you people who want to find music without toxicity, we got plenty of genres where toxicity doesn't exist.

SPEAKER_15

Wow. Okay.

SPEAKER_08

So if you don't want to listen to any toxicity, obviously stay away from black. Go listen to gospel, go listen to Christian music, go listen to Christian hip-hop, go listen to folk music, jazz, classic. Go there if you need a peace and solace. Like we we kind of need a toxicity in this industry. Even if toxicity doesn't show up in music, it could have damn sure been like a motivating factor for like the music.

unknown

Don't tell me, fellas.

SPEAKER_08

You having a moment?

SPEAKER_17

That ain't none of your business gun on your body, so you know I'm on your ass today.

SPEAKER_09

Would you let me hit it thrice if I ask it in? Uh-huh. She knows my stay now imagined babe. I mean back and forth like me, so long.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, because you just blacked out from there.

SPEAKER_17

Nah, nah, I won't no, I was doing that purposely.

SPEAKER_08

No, no, you singing black.

SPEAKER_17

I was no, but I wanted you to keep talking. That was just me being a clown in the background.

SPEAKER_08

That was done. No, I just wanted to be a clown in the background. But yeah, man, if you if you if you want to listen to shit that ain't got no toxicity in it, just go listen to those genres.

SPEAKER_17

Go listen to some Kirk Frank. Shout out to the sis. Y'all want to hear some positivity? I would gladly give the good sisram, Apple, music, you know, her artists. Yeah, yeah. Shout that out. Shout out to you. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Cadidia, man. She's doing her big one. I'm really proud of her. If you guys are interested, if you want to hear, you know, some messages from the Lord, and you want to hear a beautiful soul, beautiful voice, such a beautiful person overall, go follow her. She's she's on Apple Music. She's uh I I believe she's on Spotify also. She has a link tree um on her in her bio on Instagram. K A D I D I A Crystal Crystal or Christelle, maybe. Forgive me if I'm saying this wrong. Apologies in advance, my friend. C S N Carrie, H S N Harry, R-I-S-T-E. Shout out to Cadidia. Doing her big one. She's been on tour, she's been going all over the place. You know, she's she's had beautiful opportunities. You know, I remember she came to me and she said, you know, what should I do? And I said, sis, this is your moment and Sean. Do what you feel is best. Speaking of which, after, you know, toxicity, all the toxicity being talked up, Meganostalia and then motion party. Oh shit. Hey. This ongoing feud with Klay, like, just leave KT alone. I think you're the drama. You you are the drama. You want to play the motion party? You got motion party on your phone? No, I ain't got that shit on my phone. Pull it up. I just listened to it on TikTok.

SPEAKER_08

Well, pull it, pull it up.

SPEAKER_17

Instagram.

SPEAKER_08

Give people context.

SPEAKER_17

This is a motion party you cannot get in.

SPEAKER_06

Did I know? Oh no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, that sounds horrible, bro.

SPEAKER_12

You want a banging ass.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. Put it at 128.

SPEAKER_17

Nah, you lost me.

SPEAKER_08

I lost you. No, it didn't. That's the remix?

SPEAKER_17

What do you call it?

SPEAKER_08

128.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, I ain't got I ain't got time. Yeah. I ain't got patience. Okay.

SPEAKER_08

There you go. You got it. Don't worry about it. You got it.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, all right. So let's say there wasn't just shots at Clay. She was throwing shots at other female artists. I'm just putting that out to y'all.

SPEAKER_08

I just thought they were shots though. I at Clay. I mean, yeah, she could have been jabbing at Clay, but I don't think they were like crazy shots at fucking Clay Thompson, man. Like all she said was like, I don't go through nobody's phones. That's stupid shit. If I catch a nigga cheating on me, it's deuces. I feel like that's pretty obvious. Anybody will say some shit like that. It's a regular thing to say. And if you didn't go through anything like tumultuous like she did, I don't know. I feel like she kept it respectable. In my opinion. I don't know. I don't usually have anything nice to say about Megan the Stallion. So I keep those comments to myself. But I can say I think the verse was heat. I can say the verse was heat. She sounded like herself and it was it was heat. She sounded, she sounded super unbothered. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_17

I don't know, but I think that like there's also pull a mic. No, no, no. This is perfect. I'm telling you for a reason. No, I can't I can't hear you. It was it wasn't. Yeah. Yeah. Like, listen. You hear me? You hear me? Yeah, yeah. The speculation that's her and Nikki right now.

SPEAKER_08

Megan and Nikki?

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, that there's some beef right now that we don't know about. Get the fuck out of there. I don't know. I guess uh I guess we just gotta stay tuned and and continue. I'm gonna look a little more into that and I'll get back to you. That shit is crazy.

SPEAKER_08

Well, I'm also not a few a huge fan of like the boss man D Lo. Nothing imp nothing personally gets him. It's just yeah, no reason whatsoever. I just can't get with the the the turn up shit all the time. I I miss when sometime when you're A little turned down. I miss when no, I just miss when the south was lyrical. You know what I mean? Like when niggas is rapping off with hard ass like DJ two beats like T.I. and Young Jeezy. Them niggas is lyrical.

SPEAKER_17

But I feel like that's what we got baby for. The baby. I I feel like I don't give him a chance to either because of his voice though. I think you should.

SPEAKER_08

He's a lyrical nigga?

SPEAKER_17

Yeah. I think I think I think you should definitely tap into that.

SPEAKER_08

Like, like, I know your niggas is rich and successful, but I think they they they make your music like they make music like it's something to celebrate.

SPEAKER_15

Like that.

SPEAKER_08

All the time. Like, like nobody ain't like none of your niggas struggle, nigga. Like, nobody had a hard come up. Like, I think he wants to be a good look. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Giving you substance.

SPEAKER_17

This is what Emo wanna hear.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, shit like this, bro.

SPEAKER_03

When I saw you had to say something, play dumb.

SPEAKER_16

That's another conversation.

SPEAKER_03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_16

He's been lying for me to play this shit. You ain't never had a real one.

SPEAKER_03

I can tell that's a fact, and I know it's been a while that a nigga made you feel so.

SPEAKER_08

Introduce you to the city. Oh man.

SPEAKER_03

I ain't trying to waste your time. Let me show you my life.

SPEAKER_08

I can't turn this up anymore because it's gonna start clipping. Nah, I had to. I had to. I might have to turn it up in post-production, whatever, but yeah, man.

SPEAKER_17

Sorry, I had to put that out there, guys. It's the last episode. We're fucking around right now.

SPEAKER_08

How you feeling about this Megan thing, though?

SPEAKER_17

Megan? I think that there's a lot of truth to her behaviors and the the same conversation that we had about Megan last time. Like I just think that she is the drama, bro. Like I'm every bad bitch comes with a price. Every bad bitch comes with a price. There was something that I heard yesterday, and I'm so upset. Because usually when I hear like a quote or like some sort of like I don't know what to call it. I'm not even gonna say it. Make a fool on myself. But when there's a sing, there we go. When there's a sing, right? I would tend to like write it down, but I did hear something in the sense of like a bad bitch is more or less like somebody that you don't want to keep around. Because that's the one that's gonna fucking ruin Fucking ruin your life. Ruin your whole world. She's gonna fuck your whole world up.

SPEAKER_08

Bad bitches usually do do that. I think a lot of that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_17

They will fuck your whole world up and not think about it twice. No, no. Let me let me say that.

SPEAKER_08

Bad bitches to the most to the common man. I think I think I think a nigga that got money and status and all that shit, he can handle bad bitches, but uh uh a bad bitch to a common man to the common man. To your average? To the average man? Absolutely not. Yeah. Very, very, very detrimental in your life, my brother.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, you have no ego, you have no dignity, no nothing.

SPEAKER_08

You shoot at the stars that you can fucking obtain, my nigga. You do not try to sort further than you need to. But then what happens when you go with a dizzy?

SPEAKER_17

I'm I'm calling a spray for a for a spray. Like, I'm saying, like, there gotta be some sort of win. There gotta be some like everybody's playing, everybody's playing the win. Everybody's playing the win. I don't know about everybody.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. I stand corrected. You're right. You understand what I'm saying. No, no, I get it. Everybody's not playing. No pun intended. Everybody's playing to be a lot of people can play to be comfortable. That part. Anyway. Anyway.

SPEAKER_17

Hey yo. Can I play something else? Let me play something else real quick. Cause I'm about to play some other shit. Can I play some other shit for you? For the audience?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, go. Might as well. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_17

Damn, why you say like that? Shit.

SPEAKER_08

Now we chillin', bro. It's fucking it's 30.

SPEAKER_17

This is episode 30. Hold on.

SPEAKER_08

You know, but go right ahead.

SPEAKER_17

It's okay. Usually don't DJ, so I don't. I got some shit that I should have been been. I ain't even gonna say nothing. I'm gonna just play it.

SPEAKER_08

Oh.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Whoa. Said that you got a new man. She was a part of the plan up. Nah. Showed you was raised in the cave, but now she resided in the land up.

SPEAKER_17

Design no panda. She hit me on me on the random.

unknown

Probably rhyming the fan of.

SPEAKER_17

That's your man I can't stand them. See you with them, I can't fathom. Post them up so he handsome. Turn them up like he's saying some. Migos know, but I'm saying some.

SPEAKER_03

I'm also my riches, got some me some blessings. Said I'm happy to date. I stay with my homies and real and some funnies, but that's just a regular day.

SPEAKER_17

Chasing these bills and probably go sip on a drink. They hate it so real, one getting a deal. Niggas be on and they feels keeping the trill, muffin the thrill. Niggas spot in the drill. Just leave me a male. Yo, I'll yo, audio. How does it feel? They don't know that about that, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

This is the shit I've been asking her to send me. So I can at least like play like an outro. Put her in the fucking set list when we open in the goddamn episode. No! But she decided to play it at the last fucking episode.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. I'll be all of my films.

SPEAKER_08

I didn't want to do the same fucking play my music. I wanted to uh expose her shit. Like it's easy to find my music.

SPEAKER_17

Hold on, one last one for y'all, man. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, she's wildin'.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, yeah, that shit, man. Like, what's going on, bro? Fuck is wrong with her, man.

SPEAKER_06

Seriously, what's wrong with her?

SPEAKER_08

Yo, shout out to my son. Nano, shout out to her. Nah, we gonna mute her because she ain't she she bugging the fuck out. Let this fucking shit rock. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_03

Watching niggas switch. Getting money. Did you do this to me?

SPEAKER_08

Yo, she was sitting on fucking golden eggs.

SPEAKER_17

This ain't Lucian's house, baby.

SPEAKER_14

Sitting on golden eggs, man. Shout out to Nano Rhythm Oh my god.

SPEAKER_17

Mm-hmm. She boycottin's she finna do a protest. What? Mm-hmm. Not alone, but I'm at her in the project. She boycottin's she finna do a protest.

SPEAKER_00

Not a book up, but I'm better in the project.

SPEAKER_17

I wanna know why you really tryna go there. Whoa, why you really tryna go there? Been suffocated by your acts and there be no air.

SPEAKER_03

Remember that you know air nowhere. And never think that you would never leave me alone. Whoa, why you gotta leave me low? You was my lover better, yeah. You was my homemade. My rider died, excuse me, I know but I'm so sad. Gotta let you talk at somebody get a mouth.

SPEAKER_08

All right.

SPEAKER_03

Let's finish this up as a many elves, forget all set of mouth. I'm not dying before you say I'm tripping.

SPEAKER_08

What else you got?

SPEAKER_15

Right for a nigga, you go, slide for a nigga, you go, laugh for a nigga, you go, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02

Don't say you will know in that you want. How me for rigging like a put you on. You know I gotta get you what you want. And do you right when I treat you wrong? See you go, half a nigga, you go. Girl, I can put you on. Oh yeah, tryna question you. Just can't stop thinking. Girl, I can put you on. Tryna pressure you, yeah. Just can't stop thinking. Girl, I can put you on yeah.

SPEAKER_15

Tryna pressure you just can't stop thinking. Girl, I can put you on. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Tryna pressure you just can't stop.

SPEAKER_08

Girl, I can put you on. I guess it's safe to say that it is a crazy game.

SPEAKER_10

They gave me major pain and that's without the demon ways. We had our differences, but this bar no. It's rapture cool, but I don't use the true plane of fame.

SPEAKER_08

I remember doubts about you, but I never speak about it. Those doubles came in the same life and they was brief about it. I'm still here, man.

SPEAKER_10

They never understand it. I just see your potential. I like the fact your personality matches credentials. And you don't really wear a smile, but I know that you're gentle. And I'm just trying to catch your vibe, baby. What is the issue? I just put in my case.

SPEAKER_08

It's that you wanna settle down. Let's check up the pace. And life's like a marathon at a spot from a race. The gun steps that I fully embrace.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, I'm just saying, just know your worth. Put you in better positions, so anywhere on this earth. No other boys trash, what they do is dirt. I know you sick and tired of being thrown in a loop. You giving up.

SPEAKER_08

Oh man, this looks like it's a great time to make making a fucking album. I'm not gonna lie. This is a great time making this album.

SPEAKER_17

This is this is magnificent. No rules.

SPEAKER_08

It's a great time making this album. I think we're done on all uh topics, actually. Oh yeah. We're done on all topics, yeah.

SPEAKER_17

This is a great rock out. It was a great uh episode. Not for nothing. Hold on, hold on. Give them some of your best praise.

SPEAKER_08

I love that. I love that part, man. I'm sorry, just let that whole shit rock out.

SPEAKER_17

I don't know what the fuck that was about, but that's not even downloading my phone. But whatever that was about playing. Yeah, what the fuck is this? Yeah, absolutely not. We're not playing that. Don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_16

Anyway.

SPEAKER_17

That's not the remix, though.

SPEAKER_08

You want the remix?

SPEAKER_17

Yes. What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I played a remix. No, no, no, no, you're right, you're right, you're right. I didn't know you were ready. I didn't even know you was on a remix like that, though. Like what? I swear to God.

SPEAKER_17

Nigga, you know how I feel about meth, man. Come on, balls.

SPEAKER_08

That nigga though.

SPEAKER_17

I played remix.

SPEAKER_08

Remix.

SPEAKER_17

Joanel. Death Jam. Uh huh. Method man.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Never thought to see me dip it.

SPEAKER_08

Yo, so um I was listening to Joe Button podcast earlier. Yeah, shut up, talk to me. And allegedly, Drake saw Janice shut the fuck up. What is it? Joe Button. So Joe goes on to say that years ago in an old episode that he stated that um he stated that being a Karen is good in certain situations. So he asked his cast members what would be their white girl name?

unknown

Let me get some space and someplace to get it.

SPEAKER_08

So now I ask you, beloved, my good sis temp, uh, old buddy of mine. What would be your white girl name in case you had to fucking turn up on some shit?

SPEAKER_14

Sarah, shut the fuck up. Sarah, shut the fuck up. Sarah, shut the fuck up. Sarah! Niggas that's Sarah!

SPEAKER_06

That's me and my girl name, Sarah.

SPEAKER_08

Um, I got a couple. I bet. Nah, that's valid. That's valid, that's valid, that's valid.

SPEAKER_17

Brittany. That's valid. I like Sarah more.

SPEAKER_08

I think I'm a Brenda or a Susan. Susan. I'm a Brenda or a Susan. Not Susan, maybe Susie. I don't know. Katie. I seen that shit. I thought that shit was funny. So yeah.

SPEAKER_17

They kiss the white bitches a lot. Joe Bunner has said that his white girl name would be Janice. Janice. But there's also somebody in the camp of Universal. Yeah, yeah. The media market is Janice or some shit like that. Hey Janice, shut the fuck up. It probably gets out of hearing that bitch talk. And it was just so ironic that this nigga wants to go fix his, you know, the skin off of his teeth. And he go and say, Oh, Janice? Okay, perfect. That'd be fun. So I can throw shots at both of y'all at the same time.

SPEAKER_08

That's too perfect timing. I ain't gonna lie, dude. You should get a round of applause for that. I'm not even gonna lie. Well, yeah. I mean, you couldn't, you couldn't even want to talk about it. Alright, alright, look.

SPEAKER_17

That's Meth over there spitting right now. That's okay. Nah, nah, you good. I'm just talking my shit.

SPEAKER_08

Yo, you should play blue control. I wonder why Meth is not considered like one of like the the the goats about time. Like, I feel like Beth. No, I think he is definitely. I mean, yeah, like he is a goat. He's an additional thing. I think a lot of people acknowledge him as the goat. No, they don't, which is crazy. As a goat.

SPEAKER_17

I I find that really crazy.

SPEAKER_08

I think he's one of the main.

SPEAKER_17

Clearly 50 knows that he's the goat. I mean, he had him in the power book series.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, yeah. Let's really talk about it. I feel like a lot of Wu Tang members um they don't get that status. I think between Wu Hang and um who my god, what's his guy named? Rizza? That didn't. No, Riz is nice. Don't be wrong. Ghostface. Ghostface? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Between him and Ghostface. Because they did both two mainstream ones.

SPEAKER_17

The mainstream, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17

Other than ODB. Well, he's dead.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. I think ODB was more like the mascot of the fucking group, though. The clown, eh? But anyway. Oh Dirty. That's a rap on this ride. Until next song, guys. Nevertheless. I should wait for another fucking song to come on because I ain't.

SPEAKER_17

I saw you play blue control.

SPEAKER_08

You said that would have been perfect.

SPEAKER_17

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Or maybe not. Now that's fire. Yeah. If I told you once, I told you twice. Q. QB on the booty. Now you gotta let that rock. Okay, talk your shit, and then we'll listen to it while we ride out. Pause. Alright, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_08

So yeah, that's a wrap on this ride. Wondering why you don't love me. The way that I love you, the baby. So I got this time I got four pieces of advice for y'all. Let's hear it. Whatever you do, always show up and show up. Don't let doubt cloud your judgment. At all. Never let emotions drive your decisions. And make sure to bring your asses back here for season two in a couple of months.

SPEAKER_17

I got a fifth.

SPEAKER_14

Stay sucker free, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_08

Stay sucker free, goddammit.

SPEAKER_07

Y'all stay dangerous. We heart y'all. Peace out. Peace, love, and happiness, man. Come on.

SPEAKER_08

And as grandma will always say, Oh. It gotta rain before the fucking sunshine. So baby stage. Stage ride. This episode 30, man. Either way, some cowboys winna plugins. I'm emoji.

SPEAKER_14

I love you. I know. Here we go. AKA Mary J Fly. Okay. Hey.

SPEAKER_08

We love y'all, man.

SPEAKER_14

Love ya.

SPEAKER_08

We love y'all.

SPEAKER_14

I can love you, baby. I can love you.

SPEAKER_06

Oh shit. I can love you, baby. I can mock you.

unknown

I can't.

SPEAKER_06

Okay, let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14

If I told you once, I told you twice. To be the goofy, like a goofy, but no ice. I'm gonna try ice, uh love with juices today. The juice day, I'm about to take the bubble for pastos, turn your cats in the bottles, uh. Who you love it, who you wanna be up in? I doubt it with an each bottle. Uh nobody to change fuck physical fitness. Mary blast, be my witness. I lie for you, lie for you. God damn lie for you. I need everything, fill it, everything, 50, 000. Yo, we fucking love y'all, we fucking love y'all.

SPEAKER_08

Thank y'all for support, man. Think y'all for motherfucking support, man.

SPEAKER_04

Fuck well, and we should probably be back.

SPEAKER_08

Support us for free, and we appreciate all of it. Like I said, please like, comment, subscribe. We're gonna be video faced next season. Take over this fucking shit, you hear me?

SPEAKER_06

I can love you.

SPEAKER_08

Tim temp temp got a uh she got a final entry. But we gonna keep y'all too long. What we try to hold y'all though.

SPEAKER_00

Don't follow me.

SPEAKER_04

Not just any. Oh hey yo. Oh shit. We know what a dog beat. Do you know we know what a dog beat? Not just any bitch. Let's go to the baby. Everything from check to the cats on the truth. Let me do what I gotta do. Do what I gotta do. I got that. I got the top of the top.

SPEAKER_14

Alright, we better be out of here, man.

SPEAKER_04

And make it back to one piece.

SPEAKER_17

Shout out to baby girl, shout out to baby girl with your mad love to Aaliyah. Everybody revived. If you know, you know.

unknown

Oh, you go back to the case.

SPEAKER_17

Shout out to DMX, man.

SPEAKER_08

RP. Rest in peace, X. Rest in peace, Aaliyah. Baby girl. Uh, we heart y'all peace, love, and happiness. Please come back for 808s and uh combo season two. I don't know why I switched to this song. Honestly speaking, this you you you push a button on this.

SPEAKER_17

I didn't do that. I didn't do that. You could have put.

SPEAKER_08

I'm not I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm reading my script here. I can't look at the news. Alright, we drunk. But please do come back for season two, man. I don't want to drag this out, man.

SPEAKER_17

Please.

SPEAKER_06

Please. Yeah, what the fuck shit, man?

SPEAKER_02

You together.

unknown

Do the days and night.

SPEAKER_17

Just like that. I don't want to. That's gonna be the only reason I'll show you. It's gonna be together. It's gonna be alright, cause we hear the people kids talking.

SPEAKER_00

Nigga say one thing.

SPEAKER_14

Everything's gonna be a little bit more.